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A week and a half ago, in the comments to this post about the sit-lie ordinance, a reader asked if the ordinance in question was online somewhere:
Could someone point me to a link were I can find the actual verbiage for the proposed Sit/Lie Ordinance?
Seems like a pretty straightforward request in 2007, for a city that talks a hell of a lot about valuing citizen participation and government accessibility. But, like a lot of things, it seems Portland’s all talk and no action on this issue.
I emailed both the city clerk and assistant city clerk last week, asking “if drafts of council legislation are available online.” That was April 24.
Two days ago, the city council voted on the sit-lie ordinance.
Today, the mayor’s public safety policy assistant send me a copy of the ordinance.
While I appreciate that he sent me a copy of the bill, that wasn’t the question (and it’s a few days late). As a reporter, I have all day to call up city officials and ask for copies of things. Sure, citizens have the right to do this toobut who has the time and energy to track down the staffer who holds the draft you’re looking for?
Why aren’t these things online, like they are in Seattle (which links drafted legislation to the weekly council agenda), San Francisco (same thing), and Los Angeles (you guessed it). Maybe it’s unfair to compare Portland to such big cities. So let’s look at smaller ones, locally. Yep, they’ve got it together, too: Check out Eugene (clunky interface, but it’s all there), Bend (goes overboard, linking to “assessments” and “issue summaries” in addition to basic bills and resolutions), and Beaverton (they offer a whole packet of info). The state government’s got a great system, too, offering initial bills plus amendments.
Now compare that to Portland’s system, where the agenda doesn’t link to a damn thing, and the council clerk’s page is nothing but lists. No links, just lists of upcoming items with arcane names that only people like the commissioners, Scott Moore, and Amanda Fritz understand. (Speaking of AmandaI’m quite certain she hit on this same topic on her blog recently.)
I replied to the mayor’s assistant, thanking him for the copy of the ordinance, but asking again:
The question I was asking the clerks, however, is if bills/draft legislation are posted online, so citizens can take a look at what the council will be voting on, discussing, amending. I was specifically looking for a link to the current sit-lie draft, but my larger question still standsis the text of proposed ordinances posted online anywhere? If not, are there plans to do this, or to upgrade the city council agenda to include links to bills?thanks for any info,
Amy
I’ll let you know what I hear.
An update, from Karla Moore-Love, the council clerk:
Yes, we're working on that process here in the Auditor's Office and hope to have the links available soon.
I sure hope it's soon. Scott was asking about more timely posting of council videos last fall, and was told "maybe by April." We're still waiting on that.
Amanda Fritz got a similar "we're working on it" response via Randy Leonard over a month ago, too. (http://www.amandafritz.com/node/715)
He informed me the Auditor's Office and Council Clerk have been working to add this capacity for some time, and hope to provide it very soon.
The Sit-Lie ordinance is on the Mayor's page of PortlandOnLine today, but not linked from the front page, so interested citizens looking for it would need to know the Mayor is in charge of the Police bureau. It even took me two guesses to find it - my first click was on the Auditor's page.
b!X stated calling for links on the Agenda literally years ago. I don't know what's taking so long - even I, a 49 year-old mother, can put links in my blog correctly 95% of the time.
Until the Auditor's office starts doing it, I'll keep putting as many links as I can find (in the time available) in my regular Next Up at City Council post, usually published late Friday or sometime on Saturday depending on how early the Agenda is posted on PortlandOnLine.
Doggonit Amanda... that's the end. Now I know EVERYONE in Portland is younger than I am. Poop.
What I was told, way back when, was that such functionality was awaiting a working status of "efiles", a system outof the Auditor's office.
Well, efiles exists and works. I've used it for other things over the past year.
At this point "soon" isn't good enough of an answer from the Auditor's office. They owe us more than that.
Oh, hah. Except, at the moment, efiles appears to be down.
This makes me so furious I want to shit my pants. Fucking bollocks. Arse!
And so begins my weekend wind-down...
I agree, b!X. I just sent this response:
Thanks for the update. In looking into this myself, though, I've learned that many people have gotten the same "soon" answer.Blogger b!X says he was told ages ago "that such functionality was awaiting a working status of "efiles", a system outof the Auditor's office. Well, efiles exists and works. I've used it for other things over the past year. At this point 'soon' isn't good enough of an answer from the Auditor's office. They owe us more than that."
Amanda Fritz got Randy Leonard to look into it, and he reported back well over a month ago that it would be "soon."
So I have to askwhen is soon? What system is being put into place? If it's a matter of html links, it doesn't seem like it would take very long. But if it's a new system or process, I'd like to find out the details, like who's working on it (is it an in-house project, or is the IT Bureau putting it together? who's in charge of making sure it happens?), who called for the change, and what it might look like.
thanks!
Amy
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Beyond the simple need for a citizen to review the legislation before it passes if the legislation were archived online with a operating status it would allow people like me who seem to always get contradicting statements from police offers regarding things (skateboarding is one that comes to mind) to actually get the real answers.
Or!
Would this take away city officials (police included) power of using city legislation for their benefit at their leisure?