How is it a debate if all your speakers take a similar position?

I hear you. Frankly, inviting Oregonians for Immigration Reform was off the table from the get-go; Their rhetoric is so offensively inflammatory, we wouldn't have had any other panelists.

We had hoped to get a state rep or senator to outline the Oregon GOP's immigration platform, but they're tied up in Salem. The Oregon GOP itself hasn't gotten back to us.

If you've got any other suggestions of someone with a different position, please let us know. Otherwise, we're armed with the GOP platform, and OFIR's "SUMMARY OF ARGUMENTS AGAINST INCREASED IMMIGRATION" ("12. Creates surplus labor pool to support anti union employers.") and "SPECIAL PROBLEMS CREATED BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS" ("13. Lowers our moral and civic values by encouraging disregard for the law.") to lob at the panelists.

Plus, we encourage the audience—no matter where you're at on the issue—to ask away, and challenge the panel.

Plus we don't really want to sit in a bar with those OFIR wankers.

Oops, did I just say that? I think I might have...

Agreed, wacko anti immigration types are no fun. Ironically, Republican politicians are for unlimited illegal immigration, because their campaign financing comes from businesses which want direct cheap labor, or the downward pressure on legal wages that illegal wages cause. It's the rank and file poor Republicans who are worried about illegal immigration. Better planning next time.

You could see if Linda Flores is available.

In theory she's supposed to represent part of Clackamas County so its not exactly a stretch that some of her constituents might be interested in seeing her speak up at something like this.

damn, i was kinda hoping this debate club thing was gonna be more like an informal debate between whoever showed up, taking sides, and arguing purely for the love of rhetoric and logic (and alcohol). this seems rather like a younger, hipper, drunker city club @ rontoms, which is still cool, and worth checking out, but not as cool as real debate geekery.

Hey Pet Cow, the idea is that that's what will happens afterward, although it's largely up to you. The first hour with our panel should give you plenty to debate about from 8:00 on. We'll be encouraging every one to stick around to keep the rhetorical juices--and booze--flowing. Which is drastically UNlike the city club.

Ooooh! That's a pretty ad!

cool, thanks for writing back, scott. can't make it tonight anyway, but i'm looking forward to drunken debate in the future.

you know what would be cool? sometime before primary 2008 starts, have a pimp your candidate debate, so we can watch the obama/edwards partisans tear each others heads off while the hillary fans just stay out of the way.

just a thought...

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what a load of rubbish!