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Winston Churchill said he loved a man who grins while he’s fighting. With that in mind, last week I asked Commissioner Randy Leonard to clarify what he meant by this statement in the Oregonian:
“What I do not want to do is take a group of well-meaning citizens and throw them under the bus again. We’ve already done that once to the Chavez committee,” Leonard said. “What we need is not just five random thoughtful community leaders, but five folks who are recognized instantly for their contributions, have been through the political wars and are prepared for the job we’re asking them to do.”I wondered out loud whether he might have meant “white people.” Because to me, “five random thoughtful community leaders” was referring to the original committee co-chaired by two Latinos. And what Commissioner Leonard wants is a more politically effective committee, with a lower proportion of Latinos on it.

That’s where things turned ugly. I specifically said in the post I was not accusing Commissioner Leonard of racism, merely asking for clarification, to which he responded in the comments:
Would that be like me asking you about your realationship with your wife, Matt, and then ending withWell, la-de-dah! That’s an interesting question, Randy. Let me be clear: I enjoy an intellectual debate as much as the next man. But sometimes, I just like to fight. Although not with my wife, of course, because she’d leave me if I so much as threatened to hit her.“Please don’t think I am accusing you of beating your wife, because I’m not.”
So. I called Commissioner Leonard to tell him “it’s on,” and to bring his boxing gloves, but he ended up changing my mind a little. He said “I think what has happened is that Tom Potter has empowered moderate people to believe there must be something to their most dark suspicions that Portlanders are racist—the term has been thrown around with reckless abandon to the point where the true racists have been empowered.”
I asked him what he thought of Maria Lisa Johnson’s letter to the community last week, and he responded by saying she “has gotten to the point, watching Tom Potter, where he’s sent a message that even the council having a thoughtful discussion of alternatives was, in his words, “disgusting to him.”” Hmm. Perhaps Johnson reached her conclusions on her own?
Potter, Leonard seems to think, has framed the discussion in a way that there are winners and losers, consensus has been ignored, and the debate is no longer about Cesar Chavez. Exactly! It’s about fighting! It’s about violence! I’m RELISHING IT. But there has to be a point at which we wonder whether fighting, for the sake of it, is really worthwhile. Or, as Leonard puts it, whether “this debate stopped being about Cesar Chavez a long time ago.”
You know, part of me would really like to see Interstate renamed. Part of me would really enjoy going up there and putting fake new street-signs on the “Interstate” ones, just to cause trouble. But I guess that’s because I hate consensus, and I hate resolutions…I like to fight.
Speaking of fights, Leonard seems determined to make this one about facing down Tom Potter. Asked how it’s going to end, he would only speculate, “I don’t think anybody is going to win or feel good.”
Welcome to Portland’s new democracy. Where you can take your polite consensus, and shove it right down your liberal democratic throat. Isn’t it just fantastic!?!
And there I was thinking it was a fight about fighting.
Hey Matt, Way to go take up space with piss poor journalism. Why don't you write something that is worthy or reading
Hey Matt, Way to go with piss poor journalism. Why don't you write something that is worthy of reading
At least I re-write before publishing.
Why not leave this whole issue up to, oh I don't know, maybe the people who live on and near N. Interstate Ave. instead of a bunch of outsiders, hmmm? Then the small minority of said residents, who actually want this name change, can see that the great majority of us (yes, bi-cultural Spanish-speakers such as myself included) would rather keep the N. Interstate name, and the would-be-renamers can direct their energies to more fruitful pursuits.
Racist.
You forgot the "I'm being ironical" smilies.
Matt: If we are going to fight, let me throw this out. Egocentric vs. Ethnocentric. To quote Ken Wilbur in "A Brief History of Everything "they simply tend to become completley intolerant of those who disagree with them....They know that they have a noble stance.....but because they don't understand how they got there...they force their view down everybody's throat." Geez, even Wilbur uses the throat quote.
He outlines what has happened with the CCBC quite clearly.
Now to the fight. I have dibs on the street signs South of Killingsworth. Think you can do better than Malcom X on Front during the MLK renaming debate? I think not...ha!
Racist.
Racist.
Racist.
Racist.
Matt, you're irrelevant.
This discussion disgusts me.
"Welcome to Portland's new democracy"? Fuck Matt, what makes you think Portland has ever been a Democracy?
--- The city government can waive the law. --- So there is no Real law or government in Portland.
Put down the bong and fucking research something you lazy limey 'immogrunt' racist tape pulling fascist twit Eco-nazi booger eating sphincter.
Love and Respect, G.W. Fuktard
P.S. Research Something you lazy opinionated ass-hat. Fuck.
Those Fuktards look delicious.
Is Matt drunk? Or just unfunny?
Matt is a racist. I'm tired and irrelevant, it's beddy time.
Matt is practicing that age old internets practice of trying to sabotage an argument he lost with sarcasm and drivel.
None of those comments were made by me.
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This debate did stop being about Chavez long ago. It's about race now, and that's a topic that scares the crap out of people, no matter which side of it they're on. With fear comes people freaking out, rather than engaging in dialogue.