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Wednesday, March 26, 2008

News OLCC Wants To Yank Greek Cusina’s License

Posted by Matt Davis on Wed, Mar 26 at 8:53 AM

The Oregon Liquor Control Commission is moving this morning to pull the Greek Cusina’s license. The bar, at 4th and Washington, has a history of public safety problems, according to the OLCC. Here’s two examples, from a lawsuit filed last year alleging vicious security, to the city fining the owner for excessive noise.
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The OLCC’s proposed cancellation comes as the result of “a history of serious and persistent problems including public drunkenness, fights, altercations, harassment, excessive noise and public urination,” says the OLCC’s spokeswoman, Christie Scott.

“Allowing fights and illegal activity to take place is not being a responsible business owner or neighbor,” says Janice Kindrick, OLCC Regional Enforcement Manager. “Despite our efforts to work with the licensee, they haven’t shown us that they’re able to adequately control the business.”

The Greek’s owner, Ted Papas, says he intends to defend against the allegations.

“They are just allegations,” he says.

Comments

Karma b*tchslapping Papas for his attempt at killing food carts a few years back?

Good riddance.

That place fucking sucked and they had a history of door men who roughed up customers and sometimes passersby. They really did need get shut down and punched out. Having said that, I worry that the same tools that used to patronize that bar will start to turn up in decent bars all over Portland. It was like a 'Roach Motel' for lame amateur drinkers from Beaverton and the Couv.

I don't usually like the OLCC and their neo-Prohibitionist antics, but I'm going to make a big, big exception for this.

There are so many instances of Greek Cuisina's security attacking people that should make it easy for the OLCC to prove that the Greek is a "nuisance bar" and its license should be revoked...

I hope they lose their license! The owner Ted Papas is the lowest of low lifes. He treats his employee's like shit and will rip them off every chance he gets. Believe me this is a man that has more money than most of his employees will ever have and he will cheat them out of $20.00 just because he can. Not to mention not paying his employee’s overtime instead offer to pay them cash for the hours worked but not time and half.

He thinks he is above the law and rules are for other people. If he gets caught breaking the law he will just lie. I know this first hand I was his employee for a number of years. This man is discussing.

The Greek Cusina had to submit a compliance plan with the OLCC around 2000 or so because of similar situations. Right after the compliance plan was accepted by OLCC he instructed staff to ignore what he promised OLCC boasting that he would deal with it when or if he got caught. Not to mention that the Greek Cusina has lost the privilege to serve alcohol for about two weeks with in the last few years. I know when I worked there were issues with the owners allowing and instructing the staff to server known minors. Also employees who felt they had no power to cut service to visibly intoxicated persons because the owners would not back them up or felt they could be fired.

In the fore mentioned compliance plan Ted Papas promised OLCC to increase security staff for the safety of staff and guests from 6 security staff to a minimum of 18 which never happened because it would be too expensive. He also promised to have all the security staff certified but then decided not to because it cost too much money and he did not want to pay higher wages for people who were already certified. This is sad because on a given Saturday this place would ring up in sales on average of $18,000 to $30,000 in revenue, which does not account for the money collected at the door for the night club which was another $2000.00 or more per night.


It is about time the OLCC took the license away for good. If the OLCC decided to let them have their liquor license back Ted will run around town mocking OLCC and laughing at how stupid they are. Which OLCC will have proved him right.

Gee “ex employee”, you don’t have an axe to grind or anything? FYI – It’s “disgusting” not “discussing”, perhaps that’s why you got canned? You’re obviously illiterate?

But I digress.

I’ve always enjoyed the food and the nightlife at the Greek. I’ve brought many guests there many times over the last several years and have always had good service, not great. Decent food and enjoyed the music. Monday nights are great, one of the few decent places to party downtown on a Monday night!

I personally, have never witnessed any of the abuses that have been described in the media as of late, on any of the occasions that I’ve been to the Greek. The only bitch that I’ve ever had was I couldn’t smoke cigars in there. Oh well.

Other than that all the employees, including the security staff, have treated my guests and myself with respect and courtesy.

My guess this is more political than anything and smells of the Portland Business Alliance, if you ask me.

Oh, and never trust the OLCC!

It is a shame that most opinions seem to be jumping up from personal views.

A entity (OLCC) with so much power that they can threaten to shut down a 33 year old establishment with nothing but accusations that have not been addressed by the owners is what scares me.

Alot of what is listed as violations, public urination, noise complaints and fighting seems to be the things that all bars have to deal with.Nothing I have read seems to stand out as this bar activley promoting the violations listed.

So you don't like the Greek, good for you and your personal vendetta.
But what about due process? Have they been given the chance to comply? How realistic is the OLCC's demands? Does the OLCC have a hidden agenda? These are the questions we should be asking.

God forbid that something like this happens to you after 33 years of being in business and community participation.

Ahh Ted...those are not "just allegations." They are proven facts backed up with many Police reports and criminal charges.

Karma is a bitch Ted...I can't wait for your horrible crap hole to close.

There are a lot of good people that work for the greek but ted is fucked he treats his employees so poorly just ask anyone who has worked for him. The greek is ghetto it will not be missed.

Haha...2 knobslobbering posts exactly 1 minute apart. Did I get the Citysearch website by mistake?

As my great friend and personal mentor Louis C.K. once said, "Ted Pappas, suck a bag of dicks."

I hate to so this but I gurantee you that Greek Cusina will be keeping the license. I know of bars where the bouncers have actually killed a patron and kept there liquor licenses. Cusina will get a huge fine and things are going to go on as always. Gurantee it.

I had a personal incident two times in one weekend! The first night I was body checked by a bouncer who was taking care of a situation gone wrong where a guy got knocked out cold....they called the paramedics on that situation and I know the bouncer didnt mean to....but get this...I talked to the Manager who invited me and my friend back to discuss what happened and treat us to some free drinks. Next thing I know I am waking up in the hospital from being drugged with Ketamine. I know that being drugged was not the Greeks fault but the fact that bothered me was that I was told by several people that NOBODY called the paramedics after two bouncers had to carry me downstairs and I was unconcious and at points they could barely feel a pulse! The bouncers ended up putting me in the back of my car and my friends took me to the hospital. To me that is no way to protect your customers. I could have died right then and there. From what I was told, there were 2 cops across the street but they kept saying not to draw attention to me. I will do everything I can to help the OLCC and make the greek lose their liquor license. I tried to cooperate with the greek and they blew me and the police off. So karma is a bitch and they will get what they deserve.

I used to work for John and Ted for 2year. I Loved John he was Wonderful. For Ted he had his days when he was out there. But you have to remember it is their Greek way to be out spoken. He was very out spoken when people messed with his money and I would be too. He had a million dollar business going on. You can’t hate on him for that. Ted trusted people until they messed with his money... Ted could be very giving and Lovely... You need to look at the good that Ted has done. I remember a couple of times Ted would give food to the homeless outside the Greek. Also some people in the past that worked at the Greek were not great people and they got fired... The three guys that beat that guy up in 2005 were not the best people, but I do have to say to there defense... not all this stuff was true... I was working there at the time and I remember the cops coming in the next day and people talking about what happened. This guy that got hurt/beat up girlfriend or ex girlfriend was friends with on of the guys that worked at the Greek and this guy that got beat up was drunk and decided to poor and drink on his ex and then hit her and started going after her... that’s when the guys stepped in and kicked the crap out of the guy.... not to be mean but the guy needed to be knocked around a bit.. the fireestigsher (sp) to the head was a bit much... and the guy wasn’t going to say anything to the cops until a cop saw him in a store or walking down the street and the cops got it out of him... yes that shouldn’t have happened but things happen and don’t hit a girl or you will get hurt... Also about the rest of this the OLCC has been trying to find ways to get rid of Ted and his business because they hate him. There are more clubs that due worse and have more call on them but you don’t see them getting shut down... Yes they might need to up the security... I used to Cocktail there and I always double checked id... The security was get and on a couple of night when we had big parties Ted would help me get thought the crounds to get to the bar because people are rude as heck and wont move.. When you see a girl that is 5foot1 and trying to get to the bar with lots of glasses let her through and don’t ash a in glass that they are holding or stack another glass on top... That’s what rude people they are kicking out of the club... I 86 a couple of people... I remember cutting off a girl and she flipped out and then we kicked her out of the club and called her a cab...the reason why the Greek calls the cops because there are rude people that don’t care about other peoples places and start a fight... at least they call the cops... about the noise thing there are neighbor that just bitch too much... its not that loud and if you dont like noise move out of downtown... don’t live near like 20 clubs in a 5-10block radius... People smarten up.... The Greek might do some thing that aren’t that great and might make some people mad... If you don’t like it don’t go there.... Ted and John are great and they have had this business for 31year thanks to their aunt that gave them money to start up the Greek... and till this day they are taking care of her... Ted and John do allot for her... Also the Greeks Employees rock... I love all of you and miss you guys.... Don’t talk crap about this place unless you really know what’s going on and you don’t unless you work there.... Look in the good not in the bad... I started out in there deli when it opened and was serving and doing everything before I left... Yes we has many managers but you needed to work the Greek way and if you look at all the employees they have worked there for years they are lifers.... Jeff.... I love yah..... I hope everything goes the Greeks way... don’t mess with Ted or his lawyer Victor... He Rocks.... Go to the Greek and see what it is like for the Greek Show you will love it.... Sorry this is so long... I just had to let people know this place isnt bad...

I can tell that most people have some pretty bad things to say about the Greek Cusina. Don't go back, and tell you friends that place sucks. That place is for Dumb shits anyways!

ted shoots rats in the basement with a pellet gun every morning then makes the bussers pick up the carcasses

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