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Monday, July 14, 2008

News Man Banned From Libraries For Yelling

Posted by Matt Davis on Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:37 AM

Dave Lucero, 25, says he was in the downtown library on SW 10th and Salmon at 4pm on Saturday, on the third floor in the art & music section. He was listening to a monologue by Dave Chapelle on a public computer with his headset on. "He was really funny," says Lucero. "I know my laugh, and even though I had the headset on, it wasn't particularly loud, and nobody around me seemed to notice."

"I made eye contact with the librarian, and I noticed that she glared at me for about three minutes. And I had a cough as well, and she came over, and she got my attention, and she told me I couldn't be coughing and laughing so loud, or she'd have to call security. And eventually I coughed again, and she said 'that's it, I'm calling security,' and so the sheriff came over and tapped me on the shoulder, and I left."

But as Lucero was leaving, he did a little salute, and said, "Heil Hitler. Fuck You, You Nazi." Lucero admits he was being "kind of an asshole," but that he felt the librarian was being kind of an asshole, too. When Lucero said that, the 300lb Multnomah County Sheriff started running after Lucero, unbuckled his gun, and charged at him, he alleges.

"I put my hands up in the air, and said please don't hurt me," and the sheriff allegedly told Lucero, "You can't say that to a library employee." And Lucero told him, "I've got my first amendment rights. I can be a dick if I want to."

Lucero said he was leaving the building, and the sheriff's deputy came after him, calling for backup. The sheriff's deputies looked at his id, and wrote out a citation, which they didn't hand him. They told him he was excluded from the library, saying "you're not supposed to be here, you're not supposed to be outside the library, or anywhere around the perimeter, or any other library in Multnomah County."

The sheriff's deputies told Lucero the exclusion lasts for a week.

"I feel like they're a bunch of Blue Meanies," says Lucero, who despite his reference to the Beatles, denies looking or acting like a hippie, although he did used to have a long beard and long hair, he admits.

"I look like I just came out of prison or police training academy," he says. "I've got a really close-shaved beard, and clean crisp khaki shorts, and I looked like I was maybe on leave from the army or something. I just felt like it was a really extreme reaction, just for laughing. It was just a sad state of affairs. What kind of society do we live in when laughter is responded to with police and guns?"

"It's part of the terms and conditions of being a library member," says Travis Gullberg, spokesman for the sheriff's office. "When you join the system you agree to behave in a certain way, and the sheriff's deputies have to have ways of managing library behavior."

UPDATE July 15: Gullberg says the Facility Security Officers act according to the Multnomah County rules. He thought we were talking about the Law libraries in prisons. Multnomah County's library system runs the library-we'll check with the library security people.

 

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So let's get this timeline established.

Dude says he's laughing and coughing loudly.
Librarian tells him to keep it down.
Dude keeps being loud.Librarian asks the guy to leave.
Dude is abusive to Librarian.
Dude gets a one week exlucision from going to the Library.
Dude is a fucking dick and rants about how he looks clean cut and shouldn't be held to the same standards as every other patron because he's special.

Non-story.
Posted by Graham on July 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM · Report
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Yeah, the guy's a dick and he got what he deserved, but I'd still like to know why we need armed sheriff's deputies in our public libraries... I mean, who the hell pulls a gun on a guy making a bad Nazi reference?
Posted by Kyle! on July 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM · Report
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Dear Kyle,

I too misread the Dickish Dude's rant and thought that he said that a gun was drawn. Luckily he actually said, "unbuckled his gun".

I'm personally more concerned that the officer involved didn't give the Dude his exclusion notice. That is not following due process.

And as to the neccesity of having a sheriff's deputy in the Libary... The downtown libary has a tendency to get some people in it who might need to be forcefully asked to leave due to drug use in the restrooms. I'd rather have a sheriff doing that than a Librarian. But that's just me.
Posted by Graham on July 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM · Report
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Sheriff's deputies may make some sense downtown, but out at Hollywood it's just creepy.
Posted by Kyle! on July 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM · Report
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you're allowed to laugh at the library, but you're supposed to use your indoor laugh. every unwashed homeless dude i've ever seen at the library mastered this concept when his parents taught it to him as a child. if the police had to enforce such basic common courtesy, one wonders what other niceties ma and pa lucero skipped in raising their boy.
Posted by old lady on July 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM · Report
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inb4 "PoPiggies", etc...
Posted by A cat on July 14, 2008 at 6:36 PM · Report
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None of the Multnomah County employees who work in the libraries carry guns. They are Facility Security Officers, not Sheriff's Deputies. They cannot carry guns while on duty.

Though it make for a more interesting tall tale, no one unholstered any guns in the library.

-Library Insider
Posted by Library Insider on July 15, 2008 at 2:29 PM · Report

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