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Saturday, January 17, 2009

Battlestar Premiere at the Bagdad: Wait. That's Who the Final Cylon Is? Really? So... Huh. Okay.

Posted by Erik Henriksen on Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:18 PM

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Last night the line stretched down the street and around the block to get into the Bagdad for the Battlestar Galactica season premiere—with only 10 episodes to go until the series ends (and what felt like years since it was last on the air), anticipation was high. Indeed, the potent tang of nerd excitement wafted through the cold January air, successfully driving away everyone who doesn't feel a thrill when they hear the words "dradis contact!"

Watching the premiere at the Bagdad was a blast, with the show up on the big screen, KUFO's Cort and Fatboy serving as hosts, and plenty of beer. The Bagdad's gonna keep showing the episodes there until BSG comes to an end, and aside from the waiting-outside-in-the-freezing-cold-to-get-in part, it was a great place to watch the show. As for the episode itself: Huh. Definitely some surprises, definitely some cool moments, and definitely some... well, let's put it this way: From the Mercury peeps who attended to everyone I overheard talking about it as they left the theater, reaction to the premiere was mixed at best, and grumpily disappointed at worst. I'll save the discussion and spoilers until after the jump, but I don't think this little factoid ruins too much: On the upside, at least that whiny whelp Gaeta didn't launch into one of his Mama Mia! singing moments. So at least there was that!

Spoilers ahead.

Things I loved about the episode:

DEE OFFING HERSELF. Ka-BLAM! I have hated Dee ever since she dumped Billy, and she's only gotten more annoying since. For the past season or two, it seemed like she'd been more or less written out of the show, most likely for being stupid and useless. But when she showed up prominently (and for no good reason) in the first 15 minutes or so of the premiere, it was obvious the writers were bringing her back to the forefront so they could do something with her—either make her the final Cylon or kill her. One self-inflicted gunshot to the head later, and Battlestar had it's most satisfying moment since Cally went out the airlock. As for what this'll actually mean to the show, I don't know. Losing Dee is no great dramatic loss, plot-wise, but it might make Lee act differently from here on out—unless the show's gonna get all crazy and bring Dee back somehow, in robot or human (OR GHOST! OoooOOOoOOO!) form.

STARBUCK FINDING HER OWN DEAD BODY. Holy shit was this fantastic. This whole subplot should have been the main plot, as far as I'm concerned. Creepy and weird and mind-fucky and character-driven, it was all the great stuff Battlestar does best. From Leoben backing slowly away from the ranting Starbuck to the ominous feeling one got as they tipped that husk of a decayed Viper over to find what was inside, this was one of my favorite moments in the whole series. I can't wait to see how this gets explained/played out.

SHITFACED ADAMA. There didn't seem to be a whole lot of reason to show Adama being this depressed over the disappointment that is Earth, but goddamn if it still wasn't hilarious to see him shuffling through the Galactica's hallways and belligerently shouting "Frak!" at people and/or insisting on telling Tigh weird, rambling, confusing stories about foxes in the sea or tides or mermaids or something. I'm not sure if this comedy was intentional or not, but I'm going to assume it is, and I hope there's more of it, because drunk Adama is awesome.

THE HINTS ABOUT CYLON EARTH. Aside from that goofy flashback Anders had (does this mean that dude was Bob Dylan?), all of the weird, disconcerting flashbacks to old-school Cylon Earth were excellent, melancholy and sad and bizarre and curious. Also cool: The skeletons, the old Cylon-style helmet, and all of the other weirdness on the planet. Again, this felt surprising and eerie, and I'm excited to see where it goes.

Things I didn't like at all in this episode, or at least am thoroughly ambivalent about:

ELLEN AS THE FINAL CYLON. Ugh. Okay. To be fair, it was evident through all of season 4.0 that Battlestar's writers didn't really care much about who the final Cylon was, being more concerned with the human/Cylon alliance and mystical prophecies and Starbuck acting like a raving loon. So even though I expected the reveal of the final Cylon to be something of a disappointment (especially after Sci Fi refused to even show critics the entire episode, most likely 'cause they didn't want to word about the disappointment to get out), this took the cake. In a full show of rich characters, Ellen has always been one of the weakest and most one-dimensional; ever since she was introduced, she's only been interesting as a foil for Tigh. Tigh is awesome and fascinating, and what Ellen does directly affects Tigh, so she's interesting by association, I guess—but on her own? Not so much. The fact that she was a Cylon all along (and that she and Tigh were together even back on Cylon Earth) is interesting in that this'll probably make Tigh do some crazy shit—that seems promising. But I'd hoped for a reveal of a character who had more to offer on their own merits, and not just that they'd affect other, better characters. To be fair, though: I think this is really gonna go somewhere in the coming episodes, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it go somewhere pretty cool. But at the moment, it just feels really meh.

MOPEY ROSLIN. Aww. Are you all depressed 'cause Earth wasn't a whimsical land of rainbow roads and unicorn pets and lollipop trees? Here's a tip: Buck the fuck up. Or at the very least, follow Adama's lead and get loaded.

THE GENERAL TONE. Maybe it's unfair to have wanted this episode to feel more "epic," but after months and months and months of waiting for a show to come back, I was hoping for something that felt bigger and more resonant—an episode that would feel like a sort of adrenaline shot, I guess, to really kick into the final episodes and get people amped to see what's gonna happen next. This was a good episode—and it was certainly better than most of the ones in 4.0—but it often felt soft and vague, and just wasn't quite the jolt back into Battlestar I'd been hoping for. If you're going to expect people to wait like a year between seasons, you've gotta be sure to bring the goods when you do come back, and this episode only kinda did.

THE COMMERCIALS FOR KFC'S "FRAK PACK." Who's the advertising genius who signed off on this tie-in? Isn't a frak pack that one thing that no one talks about that happens in backrooms at comic book conventions? Aren't there furries involved?

Okay, your turn.

 

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I definitely agree that Starbuck's subplot was the awesomest thing ever. Attending your own funeral pyre, alone? Harsh.
Posted by tk. on January 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM · Report
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Plenty of beer? Were we at the same screening? The Bagdad dropped the ball last night: Scheduling a different event at 7:30 the same night (which I'm pretty sure they did, though the info isn't on the site anymore) was clearly not the best idea. Doors didn't even open until 9:30—which, considering that 9 was the posted time and it was pretty damn cold last night, did NOT make me want to come back. Plus, I wasn't about to miss the opening scene because i was in the ridiculously long beer line, but a beer would have gone great with that confusing (and kinda disappointing) episode.

Otherwise, I generally agree with you, Erik, though I think you liked the episode a bit more than I did. All of the scenes on earth were great, especially the Starbuck plotline. I really could have done without sad-sack Dee; Adama's drunken rampaging was funny but pretty ridiculous; and Ellen.... I don't even know what to make of that. I'm not convinced she really is the fifth. I think Ellen might be a very leathery Six (although I kind of hope not, because it'll really ruin Six for me if I have to imagine her as aging into Ellen). Dee still might be the final Cylon, I wouldn't be surprised if she came back–it looked like she had some kind of flashback moment on Earth. THough that would suck equally.

And also, just, in general, what the fuck? I'm confused.

Humanoid cylons populated earth. Earth was destroyed. By who? Humans? Centurions? Say humans, who then moved to the colonies, where they invented centurions, who then invented skinjobs, who then destroyed the 12 colonies? Or centurions destroyed earth? Does Deanna staying on earth mean that Cylons are going to repopulate it again? Where do the centurions fit into all of this? They found one on Earth, which suggests that either Cylons developed them, or that humans used them against humanoid Cylons, or.... I really have no idea. At some point the Centurions developed humanoid cylons, right? Who maybe then lose the ability to resurrect, and are forced to make babies the old fashioned way, and then humans develop, who then create centurions? Is that how it goes? if all of earth was populated by Cylons at one point, doesn't that mean there are a whole lot more than just 12 models? I really have no idea what's going on.

I also pretty put off by the scenes from the next episode, which make it look like they're just recycling material. (Must find new home, mutiny among the masses, etc.) I'll keep watching but... I gotta say, after that episode my expectations are definitely lower.
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Posted by Alison Hallett on January 17, 2009 at 12:50 PM · Report
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Did they show the HD feed at Bagdad?

Is Ellen the final cylon? What's Starbuck then? I I totally agree about Dee. She was hot.. but annoying.

I dunno... Overall the episode was okay, not awesome, just okay. I'm still optimistic that 4.5 will have the episodes of the series.
Posted by Bugbee on January 17, 2009 at 12:54 PM · Report
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@ Bugbee: Not sure if it was the HD feed or not. It looked pretty good, but not great. Even if it was HD, I suspect blowing it up to movie screen-size would've sucked some of the detail out.

@ Alison: At this point, I'm pretty sure we're supposed to be bewildered and confused w/ all of those questions--so partially out of that and mostly out of laziness, I'm not going to try to work through every possible explanation. (Plus, if I do and then I come up with something really rad to explain it all, then I'll inevitably be disappointed when instead the show sums everything up with one of Roslin's lame-ass cancer dreams or something.) But I did find one thing you mentioned really intriguing: They brought up the idea that Cylon Earth was entirely populated by Cylons, but in the Cylons' flashbacks, they very carefully avoided showing anyone else's faces, other than those of the Cylons we already know. (Chief's flashback in particular: Busy urban street, the impression of tons of people and a vibrant society, but we can't see any of them in detail, other than Chief.) Personally, I kind of like the visual of a whole planet being populated only by a certain number of physically identical individuals; esp. if a species has evolved to the point where they no longer need to reproduce sexually, the idea of a limited genetic pool is pretty interesting.

Or maybe this is just my convoluted reasoning so I can feel okay about imagining entire continents filled with nothing but Sixes.
Posted by Erik Henriksen on January 17, 2009 at 1:33 PM · Report
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I halfway agree. Bagdad sucked. We bailed and walked back up to my house to my house to watch it when we realized it was 9:30, the line wasn't moving and we were far away from the door. Damned if I was going to miss the first bit and damned if I had to look around in the dark for a seat and miss anything. I also hate that I spent money at a Mcmenamins in the Backstage.

Ellen being the fifth was a little deflating. The biggest question I had was about the part when Leoben pretty much ran backwards when Kara was ranting at him. Why in the hell would Leoben all of a sudden develop a sense of fear?

All in all I'm a big fan of big setups and big payouts. I have a feeling they're going to mindfuck the shit out of me when this is all said and done. I'm ok with a setup episode or two if that's what it takes.
Posted by BlackedOut on January 17, 2009 at 2:36 PM · Report
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Hey! I did a recap too!

Anyway, Ellen as the final cylon is bullshit.

HOWEVER, if you'll remember, the cylons are all about LOVE right?

And babies.

Babies and love, so it makes sense that the final five are lovers.

Except Chief. Okay, I have no idea what is up with that.

Maybe Chief and Tigh will get together since Tigh went all Othello on Ellen. That would make me so happy.
Posted by kiala on January 17, 2009 at 3:32 PM · Report
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Oh and this does not make me feel better about Ron Moore's intentions...

http://blogs.scifi.com/battlestar/2007/06/…
Posted by kiala on January 17, 2009 at 3:39 PM · Report
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Are we really sure Ellen is the last cylon? Just because that loser drunk said so? I'm going to keep pretending the question is open, until Moore tells me otherwise.

Erik: Did it look better then Firely at the Mission?
Posted by Kyle! on January 17, 2009 at 4:51 PM · Report
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Watch it again on SCIFI and watch for the clues; Dee offed herself because she was pregnant.
Posted by overheardinpdx on January 17, 2009 at 4:59 PM · Report
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Mmmm...pregnant by whom?
Posted by kiala on January 17, 2009 at 5:05 PM · Report
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Next week, doors should be opening at 9pm. The comedians that preceded us were being slow as hell and actually tried heckling the audience as they were beelining for seats thanks to how late they were running. "Oh look, nerds! Nerds everybody! What is a Battlestar Galactica, anyway, harf harf harf hurf derf"

Surprised Allison even showed up: I thought she was already writing off the Bagdad and going to some bar up by Mt. Tabor Theater. Sorry you thought it was as lame as you were anticipating.

But yeah, all apologies for that being as rushed as it was. I was a pretty big ball of nerves and frustration the whole time. It'll go smoother next week. And then Week 3, we got Mark Verheiden coming up to watch the episode with us and do a Q&A afterwards. I don't know what particular bombshells he'll drop, but he hinted that he had more than a couple in the episode he wrote.

Presentation was pretty damned good. It's not an HD feed, so if you sit real close you might notice some interlace artifacts in the picture, but the sound was good and the picture was clear. I'd call it better than when we did Firefly at the Mission.

As far as Ellen goes: No way she's a young six. If she was, when they saw Six on the Galactica, Bill and Saul would have been like "oh, Ellen, hell of a facelift you got there."

Dee offed herself because she couldn't take the idea that Earth was a shithole. She wasn't pregnant. And I don't think Dee's death will do anything for the show outside of what it already did: emphasizing the center falling out, and forcing Lee to step up. Lee finally grew up this episode.

Gaeta's going to stir up an amazing amount of shit next few episodes. I don't think he's gonna make it out of this back 10.

I loved Leoben's reaction. This is a guy who has been so sure, so smarmy, so calm, because he thinks he's the open-minded one, the one who figures it out, the one who is all wading in the stream with the hybrids. And then he finds out he has no clue in the least, and his bet that Starbuck was the fifth turned out to be bullshit.

The part of the episode I was disappointed in was the 2nd suicide: D'Anna's. That's her last episode. She stepped out in a pretty perfunctory manner, all things considering. She consigned herself to starving on a radioactive wasteland and it's almost an afterthought.
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Posted by Fatboy Roberts on January 17, 2009 at 5:55 PM · Report
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just realized my note to allison sounds snarky. Not the intention. I'm honestly sorry it didn't play for you as well as you wanted.

How bout this--next week, doors open right at 9, and I buy you a beer to drink (not the ruby) while Zarek does some grandstanding.
Posted by Fatboy Roberts on January 17, 2009 at 5:59 PM · Report
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Fatboy, I'll take you up on that. I didn't mean to come off like an asshole either; you guys were fun hosts and I think it's awesome you're doing this. My issues are with the venue, which obviously didn't have things dialed in—it's good to know that some of those logistical issues will be resolved next week.

I think the Tanker is a good option too, though. And for future reference, that one starts at 9. Something about Direct TV.
Posted by Alison Hallett on January 17, 2009 at 6:11 PM · Report
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Thanks Allison :)

@Kyle: Ellen is the fifth. I just read an interview in the LA Times, I think, with Kate Vernon. She got the call from the producers about halfway through season 3, I believe. Plus, if we're going to believe Chief and Anders' stories about their past lives, there's no reason not to believe Tigh's flashback.
Posted by Fatboy Roberts on January 17, 2009 at 6:47 PM · Report
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Why are Erik and Alison totally ignoring the fact that I correctly guessed beforehand that the final cylon was Ellen? (Yes, that guess was couched in about six other guesses… but it was still the correct guess!!) Now bow… BOW BEFORE MY AWESOMENESS!
Posted by Wm. Steven Humphrey on January 17, 2009 at 9:17 PM · Report
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I was on the balcony. I don't know if this is technically possible, but the speakers up there didn't sound like they were on for the show. Also, the audio sounded like it was out of sync a little bit.
Posted by Dan on January 17, 2009 at 9:17 PM · Report
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Fatboy: You rock for putting this on, and you rock harder for apologizing for the Bagdad's failings, and you rock hardest for saying you'll do better next week.

Also, what the hell was in that beer? My friend and I were both buzzing after just one. We had the IPA. Was that 9% or something? Or maybe we were just that psyched about new BSG.

I think originalKara's crashing Viper caused or is linked to the nuclear holocaust. My friend thinks I'm crazy because the battery in her Viper wouldn't last 2000 years and it would probably be more buried after all that time. But I'm sticking with my guess.
Posted by BrianM on January 17, 2009 at 10:51 PM · Report
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you may want to check this out, if you haven't...

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/en…
Posted by mrohd1 on January 18, 2009 at 5:26 AM · Report
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Did anyone else think the whole Kara burning her body seemed a little like Luke burning Darth Vader?
Posted by BlackedOut on January 18, 2009 at 10:04 PM · Report
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This episode was so funny. Laughed so hard when Dee blew her head off. And Adama, oh man. Great stuff. I've discovered that, even if the grand plot curve of the show is becoming progressively more disappointing to me, I can still be entertained by it.

And yeah the Starbuck finding her body thing was cool, but it'll probably end up being something lame like it was someone else in her uniform or god(s) forbid, they introduce some sort of time travel into the show. (cue Huey Lewis) It was hilarious to see Oben running away. "Fuck it. You're on your own, bitch!"
Posted by Will Radik on January 19, 2009 at 2:35 AM · Report
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I'm not 100% convinced that Ellen's the final cylon... she was killed off 2 seasons ago, and now she's going to somehow show up from out of nowhere? I suppose that's what happened during the 1st season, but still. I was happy when Tigh took care of her smug self.
I still think that Kara is the final cylon. Either that or she's the messiah. Or both.
Posted by miracle minnie on January 19, 2009 at 8:10 AM · Report

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