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Thursday, July 2, 2009

Breedlove Says Adams Lied On KGW...

Posted by Matt Davis on Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:09 AM

KGW has an extraordinary interview with Beau Breedlove up on its website. He certainly tells a pretty convincing sob story ("I played piano in nursing homes for years..." "I've never been anyone's pool boy or anything like that..."), and appears to have been interviewed before his grand piano in his 850 square foot apartment. Here's the transcript of the first seven minutes:

Breedlove: "I want to take this opportunity to talk about my credibility. I think that I was, you know, given a blow that was completely unfounded as far as me not being a credible witness. A lot of the things that they noted, especially the fact that my story changed, my story never changed. When it comes down to it, what happened with the quote unquote change in the story is that in the very beginning, on January 21st, Sam called me at 10:45 at night and said that he would like me to give a deposition to his attorneys. This was before the attorney general started his investigation, any of that. He said that he would like it if I could talk to his attorneys and if they could question me. And of course I agreed. I said, when? And he said well now, they're at your house already. And so at 11 o'clock at night I was questioned by his attorneys and I told them everything. I told Sam that I was going to tell the truth, and everything came to light, except that I was hesitant about talking about the kissing, because I wasn't sure what the legal repercussions might be for Sam, and I was really hesitant because at this point I didn't know I would get roped into things, I didn't know where responsibility would fall with me. And so I gave them my statement that evening at 11 o'clock and night, and then agreed to meet them in the morning at Sam's attorney's office, to go over my statement again, and then sign my statement. The following morning, and the night of giving the statement, I bought up the hypothetical question of what would the repercussions be of kissing before I was 17 and I was very specific, I was very, I gave a lot of details, I just told them hypothetically what would this mean? And then the following morning I posed that question again, they told me that it really didn't have any significance to the investigation, and that kissing was just kissing, there wasn't any legal ramifications, so it was better left unsaid."

Interviewer: Who told you to say that?

Breedlove: I think Sam Kauffman is I think his name.

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BREEDLOVE: WAS "GIVEN A BLOW..."

Interviewer: What about Sam?

Breedlove: Well that was, as I took that, at that moment I had already decided that I wanted to tell them the truth, and as anybody who knows me, because of a past incident, I have a deep-seated fear of lying to any police officers, or anything like that, it's a true phobia of mine, I wanted to tell the whole truth, put it all out there. During the questioning by Sam's attorneys in the morning, I posed the question again, at that point in time I took a break, I told them that I was going to call Sam, and at that point in time they left the office, and I called Sam and I said your attorneys are asking these questions, this is what I remember happening, and I explicitly walked through the details of the kissing incidents before I was 18. Sam, I believe that was probably the second time we had ever talked about that since it happened. And he acknowledged that the incidents had happened, and said that it was up to me whether or not to tell the attorneys about it. At that point in time, during the discussion, we agreed that I wouldn't tell his attorneys, but I did tell him, I said if I ever get questioned about this by the attorney general, I'm telling the whole truth, I'm not leaving any of it out. And anyway as we know at that point in time it did come out.

Interviewer: Did Sam ever say 'don't talk about the kissing to my lawyers?'

Breedlove: He said that it was my decision, but you know how someone puts you in the position of saying it's your decision if you want to do this, but it's clear that this was something that he really didn't want to have happen.

Interviewer: You two had talked about the kissing incidents before?

Breedlove: Yeah I think the last time that we had talked about it was probably much closer to when it actually happened, probably the summer of 2005, maybe.

Interviewer: And what did he say?

Breedlove: At that point in time we never had much of a detailed conversation about it. Honestly it was four years ago, I don't remember.

Interviewer: Did he admit that you kissed?

Breedlove: Yes.

Interviewer: When you were under 18?

Breedlove: Yes.

Interviewer: Do you remember anything he said that sticks out?

Breedlove: No.

Interviewer: So when the attorney general's report came out and Sam said it never happened?

Breedlove: Yeah. Well he said that he didn't remember [smiles]. I was mad. Because I thought, I assumed that he would tell the truth. I assumed that he would tell the truth in the investigation, and I assumed that there would be some type of safety net to prevent people from lying. And I thought, honestly, I had never been put under oath, during the questioning, but I always treated it like I had been. I never had any reason not to. If I wanted to lie, if I wanted to exaggerate, I could have exaggerated a lot worse things than kissing. But I assumed that he would tell the truth, I had no...I literally never thought that he wouldn't tell the truth.

Interviewer: When the report came out and Sam's lawyers came out and said Beau has no credibility, what did you think about those late night phone calls, about calling Sam, did it all come together?

Breedlove: It all came together because we had had multiple phone conversations when he had said, you know...this isn't an exact quote, but essentially to mislead from what we were talking about I'm going to send you a text message after this phone call. And he would send me some random text message saying you know, I don't know, "thanks for talking to me I hope things work out with your boyfriend," or things like that. Things that had nothing to do with the actual phone conversation. And at the time I thought, oh that's fine, he's protecting himself, but now at this point in time I realize that he was doing it to cover himself, and putting me on the line.

Interviewer: How does that make you feel?

Breedlove: Angry. It makes me feel angry just for the fact that I, up until recently, I really thought I had a friendship with Sam, which means I really thought I could trust him. And that's disappointing. It's really disappointing.

Watch the whole thing at KGW. "I wouldn't have called Sam during my conversations with his attorneys to ask him advice about my relationship with my boyfriend," Breedlove quips.

The kiss in the city hall restroom before Breedlove was 18? "I know it happened. I have no questions about the timing of it at all."

Is Sam lying about this? "Yeah." Why? "To protect himself, and it really upsets me that this is just continuing to be lie after lie after lie, and it's come down to the very bottom of the bowl where the last person who can be burned in this situation is me, and he's still burned me to try to save his career."

Breedlove discusses the Hawaii shoplifting incident. "There are a hell of a lot of people who have a lot more talent at stealing clothes than I do," he says. Spent ten days in the Hawaii state pen with "two murderers, a rapist, and an identity thief," he says. "I've never done drugs in my life. I've never driven drunk. I've never done anything. This was my big mistake. This was my learning experience."

"I want to be involved, I want to do things, but I'm worried that people won't have me, now," he says.

Breedlove wouldn't discuss how much he got paid to be in Unzipped. "It's such a frivolous amount," he says, although he thought it would come out after the Attorney General's report was completed. "Bad timing," he laughs. "The money I had made for the magazine barely covered the expenses I had lost during this situation." "I know people think that I'm a gold digger, and how that judgment gets drug from this situation, I have no idea." "I've never been anyone's pool boy, or anything like that."

"How many people have been burned because of this story? I mean, going back to the first man who brought it up. Everything he was striving for was just shot." "Even up to the very end, up to me, everyone was totally burned in this situation to cover up lies." "But I think people who actually followed the details of this situation, you couldn't miss that. The attorney general may have chosen to go the way he went, but I know that regular people couldn't miss that. It's pretty blatant."

What do you think of Sam now?

"I don't know what to say."

The recall starts in earnest, next week.

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Rut-roh! Time for a new investigation.

ORS 162.285(1) provides:

"A person commits the crime of tampering with a witness if:

(a) The person knowingly induces or attempts to induce a witness or a person the person believes may be called as a witness in any official proceeding to offer false testimony or unlawfully withhold any testimony; or

(b) The person knowingly induces or attempts to induce a witness to be absent from any official proceeding to which the person has been legally summoned.

Posted by Number Six on July 2, 2009 at 8:21 AM | Report this comment
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Jesus, if this were another city Breedlove would be on the bottom of the river by now, wouldn't he? How can he possibly begin his porn career in earnest in Portland anyway? Just go away, media whore.

Posted by erstwhile on July 2, 2009 at 8:28 AM | Report this comment

Feeling bad for the kid. Still not up for a recall BUTT Sammy boy is a lame shit for not being honest with Breedlove. THAT IS THE ONLY PERSON HE OWES AN APOLOGY TO. He should STOP talking to any media at this point and just get his life back together.

Posted by Abusive on July 2, 2009 at 8:41 AM | Report this comment

Yeah, it really isn't any of the public's business that Sam basically asked Beau to mislead his lawyers, so that Sam's lawyers would then unwittingly mislead the public and investigators, and also so Sam could continue to convincingly mislead the public and investigators.

That's really just between them.

Posted by Commenty Colin on July 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM | Report this comment

Today, I am more proud than ever of our esteemed mayor, Sam Adams.

How dare anyone question this man's worthiness to lead the city and represent us to the rest of the state and nation? Only a bible-thumping homophobe from the suburbs like Beau Breedlove would ever find any reason to question this man's integrity.

Posted by Blabby on July 2, 2009 at 10:33 AM | Report this comment
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Under Oregon state law it is sexual misconduct with a minor, a felony, for which over a dozen people have already been arrested this year, to kiss a minor with the intent of "arousal." Adams and Breedlove have both publicly admitted to making out before the young man turned 18. Adams should be arrested, tried in court, and let a jury decide whether or not he should sit behind bars instead of behind the desk as mayor.

Posted by Laws don't apply in PDX on July 2, 2009 at 12:59 PM | Report this comment

How can anyone ever trust Sam Adams? He is a true Narcissist.

Posted by Vert on July 2, 2009 at 1:11 PM | Report this comment

Yup, Sam will throw ANYONE under the bus to save his own skin. Face it, he's turned into a sleazy politician - too many years in politics seems to have this effect on these people. Portland needs fresh leadership. Sam is flop-flopping around, doing what's politically expedient rather than leading from conviction.

He should have followed his gut instinct and submitted the resignation letter he wrote in January.

Posted by pdxrocks on July 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM | Report this comment

And why am I supposed to believe Beau now? A kiss - or kisses? He admits he never told Sam's lawyers there was a kiss, he just says now that he threw out some 'hypothetical' about a kiss. Yeah, maybe, it's what he says now - and frankly, if I were Sam's lawyers, I'd be wondering if the kid was chumming for a payoff with a 'hypothetical like that . . . Beau was found to be not credible by the AG, and this line of BS makes him even less so.

Posted by Mick Finn on July 2, 2009 at 4:03 PM | Report this comment
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"It makes me feel angry just for the fact that I, up until recently, I really thought I had a friendship with Sam, which means I really thought I could trust him. And that's disappointing. It's really disappointing."

And why did you send anonymous emails to four papers telling them to look into you and your friends relationship?

And why the f#@k did you name your dog Lolita?

Posted by huh? on July 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM | Report this comment

@huh?

Yes, you are right. It's the victims fault. Bo should have been waring a Burqa to the first Thursday event. Then none of this would have gone down.

Posted by Vert on July 2, 2009 at 5:35 PM | Report this comment
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Vert, you said 'gone down', ha.

Beau and Sam met at the Capitol not first Thursday, and Beau initiated the contact. If you saw his myspace pics you know it is a wonder he was even wearing a shirt let alone a burqa. Sam may be a bit of a perv but let he who hasn't lingered on a girls gone wild commercial late at night cast the first stone.

I just wish KGW had asked a couple real questions to go with all the softballs. If Beau considered Sam a friend until recently why did he rat him out anonymously to multiple publications in 2007 per the AG's report? And seriously - WTF with the dog name? Who does that? Now he is doing a half hour interview to cry about how all the press has been so rough on him and you still consider him a victim? Really?

Posted by huh? on July 2, 2009 at 9:47 PM | Report this comment

Yes Bo is a victim.

By Oregon law he could not give consent to sexual contact with Mayor Adams because of the age difference.

Look, no matter how hot and horny a seventeen year old is, if you are more than three years older or younger, that seventeen is a no go zone. I don't care what his MySpace page looks like, I don't care what he calls his dog, I don't care what type of shampoo he uses. It is a NO GO situation.

In the eyes of Oregon law Sam Adams had the duty to not go near that tempting vixen.

BTW, If a see a porn flick, then I go down to the porn store and meet the porn star I enjoyed in that porn flick while she does a promo tour, do I have the right to attempt to act out my sexual fantasy with her? Do I have the right attempt to act out on her because she is a porn star? Can I do a Borat and put her in a sack to take her back home? NO and NO again. I am responsible for my actions -- no one else.

That' why if I kiss a underage person with sexual intent, consenting or not, I go to jail. No matter what the underage person I kissed is a victim of a crime because they cannot give consent. Bo is a victim, one very sexy victim.

Posted by Vert on July 4, 2009 at 11:10 AM | Report this comment
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Dearest Vert,

There was no sexual contact before Beau was 18 per the AG, Sam waited until his birthday, so the law condoned his behavior. Beau was a willing participant, Sam did not have to 'stuff him in a bag', your argument is specious at best.

I believe the AG when he says there was not enough evidence regarding the kiss, and that is why Beau's credibility was key. My point still stands; if Beau felt Sam was his buddy until recently, then why did the anonymously email the Mercury, WWeek, etc. It seems he wanted this to come out, he likes the drama, and he has used it for his own personal gain. I do not believe a word that comes out of his mouth. He hired a freaking publicist. He could have gone to the cops with all of this but he went to the paper instead. You are getting played.

Victim is an interesting word. In a March 8th post you wrote "From time to time I work at the State Capitol, I have seen the people fired for less. I almost lost my job one time for making a co-worker, 'uncomfortable'." ... "If you worked at the City, Intel, for the State, the Mercury... you would have been shown the door. I have seen it and almost been the victim of it myself."

So in this case you call yourself the victim, and the woman who accused you is then what? By the law she is the victim, not you. Unless you want to concede that if the accused is found to have not committed a crime by the authority involved, they then become the victim. In which case Sam was accused but will not be charged, so he appears to be 'almost the victim' just like you.

Tell us moar about your own story please.

Posted by huh? on July 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM | Report this comment

OK, I don't know how I can say it any clearer:

Sam Adams kissed Bo Breedlove twice while he was seventeen.

Bo Breedlove could not give consent to people who were more than three years older or younger than himself.

Therefor, Bo Breedlove is a victim of a crime and Sam Adams is the perp.

As for my story, can't you tell the difference between a crime between people and work place policy? I was writing about acceptable work place behavior, not age of consent laws. I was not 'almost the victim' of a crime that would put me in jail, I was 'almost the victim' of a zero tolerance office sex policy. That is all the moar (sic) I will give you.

Posted by Vert on July 6, 2009 at 12:43 PM | Report this comment
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Sexual harassment is a crime, and if your coworker felt harassed by your actions she was the victim of harassment by definition. Please explain how you were the victim if she was the one being harassed. I am a student of linguistics at a local university and this is very relevant to my interests.

The AG's report said they had sex after Beau turned 18. The only question is the kiss, and the AG did not even look into whether that would rise to the level of sexual contact because Beau is not reliable. One of the kisses supposedly first happened at the train station, then it became on the way to the train station. The other was supposedly in the bathroom and was interrupted by a security guard, but the AG interviewed the security guards and that was not true either.

Beau continues to lie even today. In his most recent interview on KGW he said he considered Sam a friend until the AG's report came out, yet in 2007 he was sending anonymous emails to the WWeek and the Portland Mercury to get the story out. Would you do this to your friend? He has since profited from the story through his modeling and has shown his true colors by naming his dog Lolita. I just cannot believe him on the issue of the kiss.

Posted by huh? on July 6, 2009 at 2:20 PM | Report this comment

Just watch this video and tell me who the victim is.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=satu…

As for Sam and Bo -- we are in a he said, he said issue. I, for one, would have put these guys under oath and ran it past grand jury.

What is clear to me is that Bo said, and Sam confirmed that they kissed when Bo was seventeen. That is Sexual Assualt III and not cool.

Posted by Vert on July 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM | Report this comment

It's the ninth video down.
The blog did not let me put the whole link in.

Posted by Vert on July 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM | Report this comment
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Oh Vert,

I thought that was a funny video, but I have to tell you I live in a house share under the Sellwood Bridge with three girls and they did not think it was funny at all. They said you were not being respectful of the woman who felt so uncomfortable at work that she had to take the difficult step of contacting her supervisor to report your behavior. They were especially pissed that you called yourself the victim in the whole situation. I want to believe you that it was a simple misunderstanding, but I think more details would help persuade my roommates.

You know Sam did not actually admit to sexual assault, he characterized the one kiss he admitted to as an innocent goodbye kiss and said he did not recall the bathroom incident. Beau's characterization of the kiss ranged from a peck to something that lasted a few minutes, but specifically denied any groping per my recollection. To be a crime there would have had to be an 'intent to arouse', and that was not established. The AG's report did not even look to the legality of the kiss because Beau was such a bad witness for the reasons I have outlined and you have not refuted. It seems that given your own experience you would be more willing to give Sam the benefit of the doubt. Your last comment before this exchange was that they should have the recall meetings at a gay bar which kinda went over my head, I hope you are not showing any bias toward Sam because of his sexual orientation.

Posted by huh? on July 6, 2009 at 6:54 PM | Report this comment

The fact that Kroger did not look into the bathroom kissing is very irksome not only to me but also to my lawyer friends. Kroger has done some damage to the legal system by setting the standard for the reliability for victims so high. In essence, all you have to do now to get your client off of sexually assaulting a minor is to say the minor is a thief with a bad memory.

Kissing with sexual intent? What did Adams give Bo for his Birthday?

I will tell you more about me when you tell me who was the victim in the video.

I am flatared by your research and calling me to task about my statements, as for the Gay bar thing. I was suggesting a venue for the re-call people to use that would not be acceptable to the right-wing nut jobs like Lars Larson or Victoria Taft. You see Victoria Taft hijacked the recall rally when she set up the remote radio booth at Nick's. Only the bar owner knew she was going to do that. She would never step foot in a gay bar/establishment. So how do you keep her and her minions away, meet in a well known gay establishment.

Posted by Vert on July 6, 2009 at 9:34 PM | Report this comment
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Vert I love your idea for the meeting location. Since Wurster did an interview with Victoria Taft after I don't think hijack is really the right word.

The AG did look into the bathroom issue. Beau said there was a witness, and the AG was able to disprove his account by interviewing every security guard who worked City Hall at the time. There has to be some standard for witness reliability since we have a presumption of innocence. Beau's misrepresentations which you have not yet grappled with seem to go beyond a 'bad memory'.

The video was a comedy sketch and I do think it fairly represents the very real issue of workplace sexual harassment. I guess there are two sides to every story though.

Posted by huh? on July 7, 2009 at 4:36 PM | Report this comment

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