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Tuesday, November 24, 2009

News / Cops Cop Union: 650 March On City Hall

Posted by Matt Davis on Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Update, November 26, 12:51pm:

Some understandable attempts to influence the poll by the union chief, from the "Support Chris Humphreys" Facebook page.

Update, 1:50

WILL YOU "STAND WITH" THE POLICE UNION AFTER TODAY'S MARCH ON CITY HALL?
</p> <p><b>Original Post</b>:</p> <p>"Will you stand with us?"</p> <p>That was the question posed by 650 police officers and their family and friends to Portlanders, outside city hall this morning. More after the jump. <br /><div class="blogImageCenter" style="width:512px;"><img src="/images/blogimages/2009/11/24/1259090553-westermanrally.jpg" alt="PORTLAND POLICE ASSOCIATION BOSS SCOTT WESTERMAN: LED MARCH ON CITY HALL THIS MORNING" title="PORTLAND POLICE ASSOCIATION BOSS SCOTT WESTERMAN: LED MARCH ON CITY HALL THIS MORNING" width="500" height="752" /><ul><li class="imageCredit"></li><li class="imageCaption">PORTLAND POLICE ASSOCIATION BOSS SCOTT WESTERMAN: LED MARCH ON CITY HALL THIS MORNING</li></ul></div></p> <a name="more"></a> <p><div class="blogImageLeft" style="width:300px;"><img src="/images/blogimages/2009/11/24/1259094080-copswearechrishumphreys.jpg" alt="WE ARE CHRIS HUMPHREYS: COPS WAITING FOR THE MARCH TO START" title="WE ARE CHRIS HUMPHREYS: COPS WAITING FOR THE MARCH TO START" width="288" height="332" /><ul><li class="imageCredit"></li><li class="imageCaption">WE ARE CHRIS HUMPHREYS: COPS WAITING FOR THE MARCH TO START</li></ul></div>Does the union lose face by continuing to defend an officer who makes them look bad?</p> <p>"The fact that he looks bad is because our leadership is putting him in that position," said Westerman, this morning, as he waited for the march to kick off, in Lownsdale Square. "It's all about perception."</p> <p>Officers stood round in the cold, wearing t-shirts and waiving signs paid for by police union. "I am Chris Humphreys," they said. And: "Safety, not politics." Another sign had the word "Confidence" crossed through with red ink, underneath the word "Leadership."</p> <p>The union requested a permit for this morning's march last week, after the city's <a href="http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2009/11/19/saltzman-suspends-chasse-cop-for-beanbag-shot-on-12-year-old-girl">Police Commissioner Dan Saltzman overruled Police Chief Rosie Sizer</a>, and suspended Officer Christopher Humphreys for shooting a twelve year old girl in the leg with a "less-lethal" shotgun. </p> <p>Since then, a majority of City Council has supported Saltzman's decision—which nevertheless is understood to have come as a surprise to all of them, last week. City Commissioner Randy Leonard and Mayor Sam Adams are both on vacation this week, but their chiefs of staff confirmed their position yesterday. "I fully support Commissioner Saltzman and Police Chief Rosie Sizer," said City Commissioner Amanda Fritz, this morning, while Nick Fish has declined comment. </p> <p><b>Update, 2:48pm</b> Fish released the following email statement this afternoon:<br /><blockquote>STATEMENT FROM COMMISSIONER NICK FISHREGARDING PORTLAND POLICE<br /> <br /> <br />I have full confidence in the leadership of Commissioner Dan Saltzman and Chief Rosie Sizer. <br /> <br />I have the highest regard for the men and women who maintain public safety in our community and have seen firsthand the compassion and commitment they bring to their work including during last year’s winter emergency. <br /> <br />I will continue to work to maintain respectful dialogue among all parties.</blockquote><br /><div class="blogImageRight" style="width:262px;"><img src="/images/blogimages/2009/11/24/1259094760-rallycrowd.jpg" alt="RALLY CROWD: NOT JUST BURLY WHITE MALE COPS" title="RALLY CROWD: NOT JUST BURLY WHITE MALE COPS" width="250" height="309" /><ul><li class="imageCredit"></li><li class="imageCaption">RALLY CROWD: NOT JUST BURLY WHITE MALE COPS</li></ul></div><br /><b>Back to original post:</b> Meanwhile, the Police Union has sent ballots to all its members for a <a href="http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2009/11/23/police-union-will-march-on-city-hall-tomorrowno-confidence-vote-depends-on-percentages">no-confidence vote</a> in Chief Sizer and Commissioner Saltzman. That move appears to have piqued a moderate down-climb from Sizer, who <a href="http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2009/11/23/sizer-sends-email-apology-on-eve-of-no-confidence-vote/">emailed</a> all her officers last night apologizing for saying she was "troubled" by the video of Humphreys shooting the 12-year old. "I want all of you to know that I value the men and women of this organization and believe in the job you do every day," Sizer wrote. <a href="http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2009/11/24/commissioner-saltzman-releases-statement-on-cops">Saltzman, too</a>, emailed a statement this morning saying he has "the utmost respect for the men and women of the Portland Police Bureau," and that he "resolve[s] to maintain good relations, or at least frank discussions with the Portland Police Association on a myriad of issues."</p> <p>Evidently, those mumbled apologies weren't good enough for the cops and their friends and families marching on city hall this morning. The crowd snaked East toward the river, marching past central precinct before heading back up Madison Street toward city hall. Westerman spent ten minutes marshaling the crowd—"fill in, fill in," he said, and "be sure to leave a pathway so that people conducting official business at city hall can get through." </p> <p><div class="blogImageCenter" style="width:512px;"><img src="/images/blogimages/2009/11/24/1259094896-policebureaurally.jpg" alt="'I AM CHRIS HUMPHREYS': MOST POPULAR SIGN THIS MORNING" title="'I AM CHRIS HUMPHREYS': MOST POPULAR SIGN THIS MORNING" width="500" height="332" /><ul><li class="imageCredit"></li><li class="imageCaption">'I AM CHRIS HUMPHREYS': MOST POPULAR SIGN THIS MORNING</li></ul></div> </p> <p>Then he got started. "I'm Scott Westerman, president of the Portland Police Association," he said. Huge applause. </p> <p>"BULLSHIT," shouted an African American man who declined to give his name—"I'm a black man, they all want to shoot me already," he told the <em>Mercury</em>. </p> <p>"Is that really necessary?" asked Westerman.</p> <p>"I'm just a union man," the heckler retorted. "I've come down here to hear what you've got to say."</p> <p>"You're here today to show your support for officers that act in good faith," said Westerman. "This is not about one officer or one politician or one police chief. Today is about support. Have you come here to stand with me?"</p> <p>"Do you have your water cannons?" asked the heckler, over a huge cheer. </p> <p><div class="blogImageLeft" style="width:262px;"><img src="/images/blogimages/2009/11/24/1259096140-heckler.jpg" alt="HECKLER: RELENTLESS" title="HECKLER: RELENTLESS" width="250" height="326" /><ul><li class="imageCredit"></li><li class="imageCaption">HECKLER: RELENTLESS</li></ul></div>"We support Chief Sizer and Commissioner Saltzman, not rogue cops!" screamed Alice Lynn and Jessica Bannister—two disability rights advocates, from the back of the crowd. "It was a girl, a child, end of story!" "Not in my town!" they screamed. "This is not Portland!" </p> <p>"BULLSHIT," screamed the heckler, repeatedly, over Westerman's remarks—in easy earshot of the TV cameras and radio microphones. He waved a sign saying "KKK"—"Doctor King would be ashamed of you carrying that sign today," yelled an elderly protester, to his right. </p> <p>Westerman pushed on.<br /> <br />"We stand here together because we often feel like nobody's willing to stand with us," said Westerman. </p> <p>"Who's willing to stand with us?"</p> <p>Another huge cheer. </p> <p>Westerman then listed all the good things cops do—the Police Activities League, the Sunshine Division, emergency calls for service, the school police division...</p> <p>"That's they job!" screamed the KKK-sign-waiving heckler. </p> <p>...domestic violence reduction...</p> <p>"How many more you want to shoot?" the heckler yelled. </p> <p>...preventing the sex trade, lowering crime to its lowest rate in decades...</p> <p>"Will you stand with us?" Westerman asked again, of Mayor Sam Adams, Commissioner Leonard, Fritz, "small business owners?"</p> <p>If not, Westerman said, "then you will have placed political expediency before public safety."</p> <p>He evoked the death of North Portland Officer Mark Zylawy, too. </p> <p>"To each and every member of our community, we ask today that you should stand with us," he concluded. </p> <p>Two patrol cars drove past with their sirens blaring, then a fire truck drove past, honking its horn. There were 50 continuous seconds of loud cheering and applause. </p> <p>Afterward, Westerman took questions: He declined to say what he wants Mayor Adams to do—whether he wants a different commissioner in charge of the Police Bureau, or what. "This is a medium for our voice to be heard," he said. </p> <p>"We all know that when this discipline goes to arbitration, we're going to get it back," said Westerman, asked whether the show of force was designed to provide leverage for the union's upcoming contract negotiations with the city. "And this is not about the upcoming contract negotiations. This is about what is right. If anything this is going to make the contract negotiations more difficult."</p> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> </div>  <div class="clear"></div> </div> <div id="BlogComments" class="MainColumn BlogPost CommentsComponent "> <div class="commentsHeader" id="readerComments"> <h3> Comments (45) <a href="/portland/Rss.xml?id=comments&oid=1876887" class="feedLink" title="Subscribe to this story's comments">RSS</a> </h3> <form action="/gyrobase/blogs/Post" method="get" class="fr ar" id="sort"> <input type="hidden" name="oid" value="1876887" /> <input type="hidden" name="show" value="comments" /> <input type="hidden" name="display" value="" /> <label for="sort">Sort</label> <select name="sort" onChange="submit();"> <option value="asc" selected>Oldest to Newest</option> <option value="desc" >Newest to Oldest</option> </select> <noscript> <input type="submit" value="Submit" /> </noscript> </form> </div> <p class="showing"> Showing <strong>1-45</strong> of 45 </p> <p class="jump"> <a href="#commentForm">Add a comment</a> </p> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1876889"> <a name="1876889"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1329700" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/temblors/b/square/1329700/6bab/5766_daylightingmainimage_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Seriously, dude needs to shave off that dick target. Worst. Goatee. Ever.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1329700">temblors</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1876889" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1876891"> <a name="1876891"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1676878" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>There's a simple solution. Mandatory steroid testing for PPB officers.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1676878">Robert Collins</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1876891" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1876892"> <a name="1876892"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1060920" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/ujfoyt/b/square/1060920/3577/2009_08_27_19_41_20_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>And drug testing after every incident, and random drug testing throughout the year. I had to be tested when I was a truckdriver, and the police should be also.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1060920">ujfoyt</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 11:41 AM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1876892" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1876893"> <a name="1876893"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1060920" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/ujfoyt/b/square/1060920/3577/2009_08_27_19_41_20_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>I also agree about the goatee. Dorky</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1060920">ujfoyt</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 11:42 AM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1876893" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1876898"> <a name="1876898"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=827335" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/graham/b/square/827335/9f40/grahamcat_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>WTF? <br> <br> "I am Chris Humphreys signs"? How about signs that say, "I have serious anger management problems" Or signs that say, "Dole in '96". The Police Union is totally losing this publicity battle.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=827335">Graham</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 12:00 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1876898" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1876899"> <a name="1876899"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1370084" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/pdxwahine/b/square/1370084/dd08/noway_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Team Cops on this one.. I mean, first they're told it's perfectly fine to beat mentally ill homeless men to death, and then someone gets disciplined for shooting a 12 year old girl with a beanbag gun at close range? Talk about mixed signals.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1370084">PDXwahine</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1876899" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877008"> <a name="1877008"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=858117" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Awesome pic.<br> <br> Here's a top tip: if you're leading a march in support of the police union and you want to garner sympathy, maybe you should think twice before going for the hard-core Sopranos look. Dude looks like a mobster.<br></p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=858117">Jack Acid</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 12:22 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877008" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877010"> <a name="1877010"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=826323" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/kyle_/b/square/826323/8a87/10_29_79_small_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>So do 650 officers have the day off today, or are cops protesting while on the clock?<br> <br> Also, are there any uniformed officers out there keeping an eye on this angry group of protesters?</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=826323">Kyle!</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877010" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877011"> <a name="1877011"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=877382" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/_pqm_mh_5i_7v7wvnih_tcvukj_th_vf5_v_00hy_jgk7_ia_b0mii_e9iq/b/square/877382/e594/untitled_png-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>The sum intellectual capacity of Mercury comments is to comment on a cop's facial hair?</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=877382">?pqM)mH{5i*7V7wVNiH?tcvUk'j>tH\VF5!V+00HY?jgK7@iA<_(B0Mii*:@e9Iq</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877011" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877014"> <a name="1877014"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1455061" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/sock_person/b/square/1455061/8690/wences_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Hey ?pqM)mH{5i*7V7wVNiH?tcvUk'j>tH\VF5!V+00HY?jgK7@iA<_(B0Mii*:, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1455061">Sock Person</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 12:44 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877014" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877016"> <a name="1877016"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=877382" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/_pqm_mh_5i_7v7wvnih_tcvukj_th_vf5_v_00hy_jgk7_ia_b0mii_e9iq/b/square/877382/e594/untitled_png-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Hey <br> Sock Person<br> <br> "...Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." -Thomas Jefferson<br></p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=877382">?pqM)mH{5i*7V7wVNiH?tcvUk'j>tH\VF5!V+00HY?jgK7@iA<_(B0Mii*:@e9Iq</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 12:48 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877016" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877020"> <a name="1877020"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=836648" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>I know it's nearly impossible for most readers here to think for themselves when it comes to being anti cop, but whoever can tell me HOW the officers were supposed to know the girl was 12 - wins.<br></p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=836648">D</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877020" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877021"> <a name="1877021"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix Comment"> <img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="Generic user icon" class="memberThumb" /> <p>it was 652 people total, not officers. <br> it was entertaining, ton of them holding signs in support of humphreys, others begging a change in leadership, all of them wearing shirts that say "I am humphreys", and the things that westerman decided to talk about is how its not about one officer, or about a politician... should have got different signs then...<br> as for the actual rally, he lost me when he started comparing humphreys to good cops that have died in the line of duty.<br> Matt,<br> in the second picture, with all of the "I am Chris Humphreys" boards, who is the angry looking guy standing in front trying to make his candy ass look buff?<br> @ Jack Acid - agreed, westerman looks like an extra from a new jersey teamsters convention.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong>the police should pack it in</strong> on November 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877021" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877023"> <a name="1877023"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1455061" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/sock_person/b/square/1455061/8690/wences_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>That is a fancy quotation. What's it have to do with Matt Davis' grit-filled vagina?<br> <br> MANDATORY DRUG TESTING.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1455061">Sock Person</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 12:56 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877023" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877027"> <a name="1877027"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1877026" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>D - Because they recognized her as someone banned from Trimet. They already knew her, and very likely knew she was 12. Humphrey's behavior would have been inappropriate regardless of her age, though I agree that he would most likely not be on probation now if he had not been involved in the Chasse case. If he hadn't already been carrying his rifle, he would have had free hands to help the officer who had mostly subdued the girl, but he came to the incident prepared to escalate rather than de-escalate.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1877026">pdxrm</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 1:04 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877027" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877028"> <a name="1877028"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix Comment"> <img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="Generic user icon" class="memberThumb" /> <p>@ D - "I know it's nearly impossible for most readers here to think for themselves when it comes to being anti cop, but whoever can tell me HOW the officers were supposed to know the girl was 12 - wins."<br> <br> uh... because they said they had had previous contact with her and recognized her as someone who was not supposed to be on the MAX? (or are they liars?)<br></p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong>the police should pack it in</strong> on November 24, 2009 at 1:05 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877028" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877196"> <a name="1877196"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1846356" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Both sides have (somewhat) valid arguments, but the Police Union has probably the worst PR effort in recent memory. Time to invest in an image consultant if you wanna win this battle.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1846356">tallperson</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 1:17 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877196" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877287"> <a name="1877287"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=836648" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>I suppose, they may have known that, I will add they were also dealing with a mob of people when a 5'8" woman came at them throwing punches.<br> Not that I always take the police side, many think she could have been subdued otherwise. Still, she had a bruised thigh after punching police. Thats nothin</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=836648">D</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 1:30 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877287" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877288"> <a name="1877288"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=834747" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/rich-bachelor/b/square/834747/75ab/charles_berlitz_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>That Jefferson quote gets flogged around so goddamn much, it is almost never further noted that he more or less took it all back in the next sentence.<br> <br></p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=834747">rich bachelor</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 1:32 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877288" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877304"> <a name="1877304"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=858981" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/number_six/b/square/858981/c384/numbersix_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>T-shirt ideas: <br> <br> "I am the ghost of James Chasse"<br> <br> "I am youthful liberty, smashed on the MAX platform"<br> <br> "I am getting paid $51 dollars an hour in overtime to go to the fat girl's trial."<br> <br> "I am too stressed out - give me money!"<br> <br> <br></p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=858981">Number Six</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 1:38 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877304" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877310"> <a name="1877310"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1069281" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>The PPB is even more out of touch than I imagined possible if they think this is winning them any support. “We're tough. And angry! We have guns! We stick together like a pack of wolves no matter what our boss and your elected officials think. Did we mention angry?”<br> <br> I appreciate what the police are supposed to offer our community and understand that the vast majority of them are dignified people. But until they show evidence of having enough self-discipline to police themselves, citizens have little reason not to treat each and every one of them like an unpredictable, wild animal that some of them have proven themselves to be and the remainder apparently support in full? It's the reciprocal perspective that the PPB has obviously taken toward its citizenry.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1069281">Pangloss</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 1:40 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877310" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877392"> <a name="1877392"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=826997" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/miguelaron/b/square/826997/90ec/img_1497_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>remember that episode of the simpsons when officer lou was like "Hey, Chief, can I hold my gun sideways? It looks so cool!"</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=826997">miguelaron</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 1:54 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877392" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877446"> <a name="1877446"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1080612" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/loknaar/b/square/1080612/686b/loknaar_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>If you can't handle a 12 year old, unarmed little girl without a shotgun, you shouldn't be a cop. I don't think that Portland is really against it's police force, just some of the uncalled for, violent behaviors. I'm glad that it was the same cop from the Chasse case, because it shows exactly what people were afraid of by leaving him loose on the streets as part of the PPD. We just can't let this guy walk around with live rounds, waiting for the next overreaction on the cop's part.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1080612">LokNaar</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 2:05 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877446" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877668"> <a name="1877668"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=877382" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/_pqm_mh_5i_7v7wvnih_tcvukj_th_vf5_v_00hy_jgk7_ia_b0mii_e9iq/b/square/877382/e594/untitled_png-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>What overreaction? Took three officers to keep her down. Shit she could have been on PCP for all we know.<br> <br> Again, people are upset because they see a beanbag. I expect people would rather the cops have put her in a full nelson and punched her.<br> <br> Rather, what do they expect the cops to do to combative suspects? Charm them to cease?</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=877382">?pqM)mH{5i*7V7wVNiH?tcvUk'j>tH\VF5!V+00HY?jgK7@iA<_(B0Mii*:@e9Iq</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 2:30 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877668" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877714"> <a name="1877714"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=831281" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Actually, it only took one cop to hold her down while another cop shot her.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=831281">Smiley</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 2:48 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877714" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1877843"> <a name="1877843"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=828976" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/blackedout/b/square/828976/84f7/captain20ahab_1_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>"What overreaction? Took three officers to keep her down."<br> <br> My sister is a therapist and worked with children that were dangerous to themselves or others. She is not a big person yet she worked with 13 or 14 year olds and was trained on how to restrain them. She did this for 5 years while working her way post college and through grad school. She got bruises and was bit a few times but never anything more than that. Did I mention these were girls AND BOYS that had serious behavior disorders. <br> <br> If my little sister could do it without a bean bag shotgun on bigger kids than this girl the cops sure as shit should know how to do it. Either that or go take a training at Albertina Kerr.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=828976">BlackedOut</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 3:34 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1877843" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1878986"> <a name="1878986"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=902033" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Gee what a surprise on the vote. Journalism at its Mercury best - pandering to the anti-cop brigade. Whatever sells 'newspapers.'</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=902033">Larry Norton</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 4:55 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1878986" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1878989"> <a name="1878989"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=825217" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/matt-davis/b/square/825217/4ee5/mattdavis_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Ah, come on, Larry. You said we had a "balanced tone" on your blog, earlier. I couldn't just let that stand, unaddressed.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=825217">Matt Davis</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 5:11 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1878989" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1879100"> <a name="1879100"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1010987" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/abusive/b/square/1010987/4b81/drbyronorpheus_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>That heckler is the best.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1010987">Abusive</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1879100" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1879122"> <a name="1879122"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=826917" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/jason/b/square/826917/ea97/2corn_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>I am so glad the first post was about that "dick target". I've always called that goatee abomination the "cake-eater" as it looks like a grown man shoved his face into a cake. Yes, anyone that wears that shit is always wrong on everything. always.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=826917">Jason</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 6:02 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1879122" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1879366"> <a name="1879366"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=827018" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/dale_hardway/b/square/827018/0c08/m_ac6b93fc8a2595b06242d9fb939362d0_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>I know, give the PPB to Leonard. Maybe he can straighten it up a tad. Maybe that's why all the griping about it in the first place, they were afraid someone with a set of BALLS would hold 'em accountable. Say what ya will, but Leonard does have balls to call it as he sees it.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=827018">Dale Hardway</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 7:49 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1879366" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1879565"> <a name="1879565"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=858981" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/number_six/b/square/858981/c384/numbersix_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Larry Norton is just jealous because your blog posts get comments, Matt. Just stay off Norton's lawn you pesky kids!</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=858981">Number Six</a></strong> on November 24, 2009 at 8:27 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1879565" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1879766"> <a name="1879766"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix Comment"> <img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="Generic user icon" class="memberThumb" /> <p>Awesome showing by Portland's finest. So a fat, out of control, mouthy 12 yr old brat gets popped with a bean bag round. Good shot Chris. And I hope Aaron is doing ok too. Scott Westerman- you are doing a hell of a job rallying the troops. Police work is a tough job anywhere, but even tougher in bleeding heart, loopy, liberal, Portland. Keep rallying the troops. PPB- you do fine, thankless work in this town. Chris- stay strong. Hope you are back on the streets soon. Portland needs you. God bless Portlands Finest.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong>PDXSTEELE</strong> on November 24, 2009 at 9:20 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1879766" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1880826"> <a name="1880826"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1880825" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Police work is a tough job and deserves all the respect in the world; this was thuggery with a badge. Humphreys has an established pattern of using excessive force that should indicate to anyone with a whit of sense that maybe, just maybe, he's not cut out for this line of work. Get the guy a job at Domino's if he can promise not to chokeslam people who complain about their pizza being cold.<br> <br> Why the Portland cops are choosing this incident to rally around is completely beyond me. It reads like a scenario the Onion would come up with. Three cops unable to restrain an unarmed 12-year-old girl, and then one shoots her with a "less-than-lethal" weapon well outside its "less-than-lethal" range. This is supposed to build public support? It just makes me fear the local police force.<br> <br> Kudos to the Oregonian for reporting that the last time the police union held a demonstration like this it was to support two officers that got fired for leaving dead possums in front of a black-owned restaurant. These guys really know how to choose a cause to rally around.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1880825">Flarrrgh</a></strong> on November 25, 2009 at 4:33 AM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1880826" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1881511"> <a name="1881511"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1384180" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>I think I might like Leonard as Police Commissioner. If PPB gets scared and over reacts controlling a 12 year old girl, then put someone who charges into burning houses in charge of them to show them how to behave with courage.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1384180">Dan Newth</a></strong> on November 25, 2009 at 8:32 AM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1881511" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1881515"> <a name="1881515"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1384180" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Leonard's wife was a police counselor. She understands their posturing and the fears that effect their behavior. Leonard has a clue about PPB</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1384180">Dan Newth</a></strong> on November 25, 2009 at 8:50 AM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1881515" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1881774"> <a name="1881774"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=831684" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/pinehurstkid/b/square/831684/d6fb/flippingfridaze_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>If I shot my 12 year old daughter with a bean bag would she remain in my custody? What if a cop saw me do it? I know, I know... they have badges, I don't. But STILL.... whatever happened to good old tazers?</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=831684">pinehurstkid</a></strong> on November 25, 2009 at 10:25 AM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1881774" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1882572"> <a name="1882572"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix Comment"> <img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="Generic user icon" class="memberThumb" /> <p>I think these comments are all great that bash the police using a bean bag on a 12 year old...if you are retarded. <br> <br> I bet this 12 year old "girl" would kick the snot out of each and every one of you granola eating douche bags. Then you'd call the police, crying, asking for an ambulance, and when the police showed up, "I want her arrested, she assaulted me! Look at my face!". <br> <br> Each and every one of you would have a different opinion then. But here, you can act tough "they can't handle a 12 year old girl?". Until you've been in their shoes, which you likely wouldnt last a single shift in, leave your comments at the door. <br> <br> The police do a fantastic job in this town. Even with the lack of support they get from their command staff and city government officials. <br> <br></p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong>10-8</strong> on November 25, 2009 at 2:46 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1882572" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1882576"> <a name="1882576"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1080612" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/loknaar/b/square/1080612/686b/loknaar_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Somehow, I just don't think that Portland is against it's police force, just the excessive use of sometimes deadly force. I believe that policing is tough work; I just think that the police should take some classes on manhandling people instead of using shotguns, pistols and tasers as the first option.<br> <br> Oh, and 10-8, I am not, nor will I ever feel threatened by an unarmed 12yr. old girl. The whole "been in their shoes" bit just doesn't hold water here and you're a pussy for even suggesting the girl as a threat to a grown assed man. Seriously, get a pair.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1080612">LokNaar</a></strong> on November 25, 2009 at 3:00 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1882576" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1883571"> <a name="1883571"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1883570" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>It was three cops versus an unarmed 12-year-old girl, and an officer with prior issues with excessive force used a less-than-lethal weapon well outside 'less-than-lethal' guidelines.<br> <br> Those are immutable facts. Spin it as much as you want (See "She was big for her age!" or "She may have been on the angel dust!" or "She was going to spoil the ending to Twillight New Moon!") but the cops are dead wrong on this one.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1883570">Goldo</a></strong> on November 25, 2009 at 6:06 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1883571" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1884168"> <a name="1884168"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=931273" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>I'm with LokNaar,<br> <br> If you can't handle an unarmed 12 year old without the use of a shotgun then you are a big drippy vagina.<br> <br> No balls, end of story.<br> <br> And yes, I did in fact enter the armed professions at the age of 17.<br> <br> I know what I'm typing about here through direct experience.<br> <br> No AK?, no RPG?, no problem. Humphries needs to go.<br> <br> Stress my ass, fucking pussy.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=931273">Milfalicious</a></strong> on November 25, 2009 at 9:12 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1884168" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1885164"> <a name="1885164"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=828976" class="memberThumb"><img src="/imager/blackedout/b/square/828976/84f7/captain20ahab_1_jpg-magnum.jpg" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Just to say...<br> <br> If a person working with a 12 year old in the mental health field..regardless of size...left a bruise on him/her they could be fired.<br> <br> I mean that literally. Don't think those people don't get swung at by kids with behavior disorders. If they leave a bruise they lose their jobs. <br> <br> This pathetic cop used a shotgun with a beanbag in it.</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=828976">BlackedOut</a></strong> on November 26, 2009 at 3:18 AM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1885164" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1885952"> <a name="1885952"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1860955" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Wow. Officer Fort would be proud.<br> <br> 3 officers and a gun to take down a 12 year old. Impressive.<br> <br> Forget the class in control holds - I got a gun! You hold her - I'll shoot from here - 12" away!</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1860955">Johnston</a></strong> on November 26, 2009 at 10:04 AM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1885952" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1886377"> <a name="1886377"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=829569" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>Goatees - the new mullet.<br> <br> "Tell your barber you do not want to look like an asshole any more."</p> </div> <div class="commentAuthor"> Posted by <span><strong><a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=829569">LawyerPepper</a></strong> on November 26, 2009 at 1:32 PM</span> <span id="reportThisComment" class="commentPublicControls"> | <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Tools/ReportComment?oid=1886377" target="_blank" onclick="popupWindow('popupViolationReporter', this.href, 340, 222, 400, 10); return false">Report this comment</a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="comment" id="BlogComments-comment-1886378"> <a name="1886378"></a> <div class="commentText clearfix"> <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=829569" class="memberThumb"><img src="/images/icons/user_generic-thumb.gif" alt="" width="50" height="50" class="memberThumb" /></a> <p>ujfoyt - the police contract is coming up for renewal. Perhaps Commissioner Saltzman (or even better, Commissioner Leonard) could hire expert management-side labor attorneys to put clauses in requiring mandatory random drug tests on police officers for all illegal drugs, plus anabolic steroids and masking agents.<br> <br> They test the Beavers for steroids, why not cops? 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