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Thursday, September 2, 2010

Where Do You Pee?

Posted by Ned Lannamann on Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:40 PM

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The Society Pages has a long and intermittently interesting post about the difference in male and female bathroom signage, with plenty of examples from around the world. The idea is that an easily identifiable symbol to determine the sex has its basis in long-established roles of inequality:
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Washroom signs are very telling of the way societies construct gender. They identify the male as the universal and the female as the variation. They express expectations of gender performance. And they conflate gender with sex.

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And so on. But what's really cool about the post is the sheer volume of examples used, of some very normal looking bathroom signs to some bizarre ones, funny ones, incredibly sexist ones, and completely incomprehensible ones. The post also links to the great Toilet Signs blog, which has more of this stuff. Anyway, read the whole post here.

It also got me thinking about local bathroom signs. It seems like we're a city of unisex bathrooms—almost every place I can think of has a unisex room. What are some of the more interesting men's/women's room signs around town? I'm coming up blank.

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I llke Dots' three bathroom signs: It. Doesn't. Matter.

I've also spent some enjoyable evenings watching people try to remember which symbol they are (circle with arrow or circle with cross) at the Aalto Lounge. Good times.

...yeah, I don't get out much.
Posted by Patrick A. Coleman on September 2, 2010 at 3:45 PM · Report
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I don't understand their first complaint: "They identify the male as the universal and the female as the variation."

The icons are the same size and right next to each other. How can they claim one has greater emphasis?
Posted by Reymont on September 2, 2010 at 4:00 PM · Report
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Oh, and - the popular dance club in Killeen, Texas, back when I was in the Army, had the male and female symbols on their bathroom doors. And NO ONE THERE KNEW WHAT THEY MEANT. There was always a small crowd outside of the restrooms, giggling nervously while they waited for someone to come out, so they'd know which meant "men" and which meant "women."
Posted by Reymont on September 2, 2010 at 4:02 PM · Report
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I'm a fan of the vaguely feminist implications of the signs at Mayas Taqueria (where there are steps at the door of both bathrooms):

MEN
STEP DOWN

WOMEN
STEP UP
Posted by Carl on September 2, 2010 at 4:07 PM · Report
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Doesn't Aalto have XX and XY?
Posted by Carl on September 2, 2010 at 4:08 PM · Report
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Ah, pac beat me to it! I've always thought the signs at Dots were clever.

The Maiden has (had? Someone told me they closed and I haven't been able to over and confirm) a mermaid and a merman on theirs.
Posted by Oregometry on September 2, 2010 at 4:15 PM · Report
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The Aalto ones make me feel stupid AND not cool enough to be there.

I have...issues.
Posted by kiala on September 2, 2010 at 4:24 PM · Report
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@Reymont The standard dude symbol is a stick figure. The standard dame symbol is a stick figure in a dress. They're not really complaining about the semiotic efficiency of the arrangement, just the idea that the dude symbol is the baseline.
Posted by atomic on September 2, 2010 at 4:28 PM · Report
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Sisters Of The Road has new gender neutral bathroom stencils in English and Spanish!
Posted by ERN on September 2, 2010 at 4:29 PM · Report
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The Side Street's on 34th and Belmont say "both" and "either" which prompted this very Portland bit of chalk graffiti: "*HEART* the co-ed bathrooms. Unfortunately, they still prop up the idea of a gender binary." (or something to that effect).

Sometimes I wish my neighborhood would just chill the fuck out.
Posted by Carl on September 2, 2010 at 4:37 PM · Report
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@Carl

Yes! You're right! The only reason I remember which one I am consistently is because when I was a nursing major, I memorized it by telling myself the Y was like an X with a penis dangling down. I passed Anatomy and Physiology with an A average... And then became a food critic. Go figure.
Posted by Patrick A. Coleman on September 2, 2010 at 4:40 PM · Report
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Every bathroom trip at the Aalto is a mental coin toss. Sorry ladies.
Posted by atomic on September 2, 2010 at 4:40 PM · Report
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Unisex bathrooms are always the way to go. Separating bathrooms by gender will always end up alienating people who fall outside of the gender binary. And since, like the bathrooms at Dots point out, it doesn't matter, why bother?
Posted by BruceWang on September 2, 2010 at 4:40 PM · Report
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How dumb are people that they can't remember simple genetic codes to know where to poop?
Posted by Graham on September 2, 2010 at 4:48 PM · Report
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Also @ Ned Lannamann, cool post, and cool link.
Posted by BruceWang on September 2, 2010 at 4:53 PM · Report
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@Bruce Wang

Yes, it doesn't matter. But obviously "matter" is the best bathroom at Dots:

1. It has an awesome mirror.
2. It the only one big enough to have sex in.
3. Those two seem related and, no, I've never had sex there.
Posted by Patrick A. Coleman on September 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM · Report
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@Bruce Wang -

Well, the answer to your question seems simple, so I'll try to post it?

Because more customers would be offended at sharing the restroom with someone of the wrong gender than would be offended at being forced to conform to only two genders.

I should admit that I am baffled by the concept of more than two genders. Just look down, people.
Posted by Reymont on September 2, 2010 at 5:37 PM · Report
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@ Reymont - there's many people who consider themselves somewhere along a spectrum of genders; some even feel gender neutral. Which bathroom should a pre-op transwoman use? What about a man who identifies (and dresses) as a woman?

I'm glad you know what's between your legs, though.
Posted by cat & beard on September 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM · Report
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"I should admit that I am baffled by the concept of more than two genders. Just look down, people."

Looking down'll help you figure out your sex (male, female, hermaphrodite...), but gender refers to social roles and doesn't necessarily correspond with anatomy.
Posted by Rachael Marcus on September 2, 2010 at 10:54 PM · Report
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I ate at the Rogue Brewery in Newport a couple of years ago and found the restrooms labeled "barley" and "hops". I don't recall if there were icons as well, but I do know I couldn't tell which was which. I had to ask the bartender.
Posted by besimmons on September 2, 2010 at 11:39 PM · Report
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Rogue in NW Portland also has "barley" and "hops". It's always amusing to get a seat where you can see people going in and out of the bathrooms, wondering where the hell they're meant to go. Of course, anywhere else in town if you were watching that, people would think you were a pervert...
Posted by Stu on September 3, 2010 at 9:14 AM · Report
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@ Patrick A. Coleman

I agree! But I like 'matter' because I am made of matter! Maybe a 'matter' and 'anti-matter' would be funny washroom signs. And then I can call the toilets 'reaction chambers'?
Posted by BruceWang on September 3, 2010 at 9:25 AM · Report
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There's a bar in Mt. Vernon, Ohio (smallish town... think Woodburn) called The Office, and the bathrooms are labeled "bosses" and "secretaries." I'll let you guess which is which in progressive small town Ohio.
Posted by Jack Acid on September 3, 2010 at 12:50 PM · Report

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