ABOVE: Kathleen Hannas filing cabinet—donated FOR HISTORY—on the cover of The Riot Grrrl Collection.
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  • ABOVE: Kathleen Hanna's filing cabinet—donated FOR HISTORY—on the cover of The Riot Grrrl Collection.

When I interviewed Kathleen Hanna in advance of her lecture in Portland tomorrow, a lot was left on the proverbial cutting-room floor. Here's what she told me about her visual art projects and helpful resources on the history of riot grrrl (she hinted at more that she'll announce in the lecture proper).

On her visual art: "I have a bunch of installations that I have the mock-ups for and I've been ordering parts and pieces for. I'm interested in installation work, and large-format painting... A lot of it is about working through my feelings about the '90s and about now and about feminism. A lot of it is about working through illness and is very personal in this way, but I don't think that if you actually saw the work you would think it was that personal. And some of it involves sound, like sound installations... A lot of it just had to do with being on tour and being in these crappy backstages with dicks painted all over 'em and drawn all over 'em all the time... I'm interested in what it feels like to be in a room and in making rooms that create certain feelings in people. Yayoi Kusama had this amazing project many years ago that was all mirrors and light and you crawled into this kind of cave and it looked like infinity... And maybe it wasn't overtly political, but it was to me at the time I needed to be in another world, for like five minutes."

On The Riot Grrl Collection, edited by Lisa Darms: "I think the Lisa Darms book is a really great starting point [for people who are interested in riot grrrl] because... there's all these different pages of fanzines and... it's curated more as a snapshot than as... the be all and end all of telling the history—it's showing it, just showing, like, here's this page out of this fanzine and it's a super confessional personal perspective, and then here's somebody who has an academic perspective about class and here's a person who's talking about growing up in a violent family and here's a person who's talking about their band or interviewing a band—there's so many different things in it, and so many different voices that I feel like that is a really great place to start."

On The Punk Singer, and other films that address riot grrrl: "The hard thing is the movie wasn't about riot grrrl, it was about me. So it's like, why are the critiques of riot grrrl not in here? You know, like why is the stuff that was interesting about riot grrrl not in here? And it's like, 'cause the the movie's not about riot grrrl, it's about you... and there's actually three movies being made about riot grrrl now, so hopefully... they'll be more intense and challenging than The Punk Singer was about that particular topic. I feel like The Punk Singer was just a little bit too, like, 'Kathleen's great!' And while I adore a lot of the people who worked on the film and really appreciate that they would wanna do that, you know, I'm a jerk, too. So, I hope that came across, that I'm a bit of a jerk as well. I'm not just this like awesome person."