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      <![CDATA[Does the validity or severity of the injuries lessen or increase the fact that it was a hate crime? Calling someone a "fag" in a derogatory manner is a hate crime, punishable by law, even if the fight is instigated by a member of the LGBTQ population (which I doubt it was in this case). I might also add, that words can hurt as bad as a punch to the face. Boxxy's argument is meaningless. These guys could have been assaulted with a fish, sustained no injuries, and still be completely justified in seeking help and creating outcry for anti-gay sentiments. Who cares how bad the injuries were... the fact of the matter is that the people who did this need to be found and brought to justice. Seaside as community should hold marches, protests, and vigils in honor of their queer community members and everyone should be taught that behavior like this in unacceptable in Oregon.
        
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      <![CDATA[Does the validity or severity of the injuries lessen or increase the fact that it was a hate crime? Calling someone a "fag" in a derogatory manner is a hate crime, punishable by law, even if the fight is instigated by a member of the LGBTQ population (which I doubt it was in this case). I might also add, that words can hurt as bad as a punch to the face. Boxxy's argument is meaningless. These guys could have been assaulted with a fish, sustained no injuries, and still be completely justified in seeking help and creating outcry for anti-gay sentiments. Who cares how bad the injuries were... the fact of the matter is that the people who did this need to be found and brought to justice. Seaside as community should hold marches, protests, and vigils in honor of their queer community members and everyone should be taught that behavior like this in unacceptable in Oregon.
        
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      <![CDATA[Boxxy, it's very brave of you to stand so strongly for the truth that you would forgo breathing until it arrives.  Continue your principled stand...for an hour or two, please.
        
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      <![CDATA[Boxxy, continue to hold your breath, and we'll hold your funeral.
        
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      <![CDATA[""Visitors to Oregon lack the knowledge to know that only the major urban areas in our state are liberal and open-minded. The rest of the state is conservative, Republican, and non-accepting of those different than themselves."<br>
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That is why it's wonderful to be a white hetero-normative male in America. I don't have to worry about shit like this. White privelege FTW!
        
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      <![CDATA["Visitors to Oregon lack the knowledge to know that only the major urban areas in our state are liberal and open-minded. The rest of the state is conservative, Republican, and non-accepting of those different than themselves."<br>
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I've been here about 6 years and it took me a while to understand this.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Story will be here today, gone tomorrow]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Visitors to Oregon lack the knowledge to know that only the major urban areas in our state are liberal and open-minded. The rest of the state is conservative, Republican, and non-accepting of those different than themselves. Granted, most of the state's population is concentrated in urban areas, but the bulk of the state's land area is occupied by the ignorant. Sadly, there will be a lot of people who cry foul over this attack, but there will be very few who step-up to actually help these young men. The gay community in our state is filled with medical and legal professionals who could step-up to help these men, where are they? What about the wealthy gay men in our community such as Gus Van Sant; why aren't they stepping-in to pay their medical bills?
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Bob R.]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Thanks, Graham... it's just not my day today.  I've screwed up in two different comment threads in the same day.  Not my style.  I'm not sure if that means I need more coffee or less coffee, or if I should just use more alcohol to forget the whole thing.
        
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      <![CDATA[Bob, I really hope that your inappropriate link gets left where it is. There needs to be some levity in every discussion.
        
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      <![CDATA[OK, my apologies for the above link, it as meant to go in an entirely different thread, where the humor would have been appropriate.  I pasted it into the wrong window, and I did not mean to bring this up here, given the seriousness of this topic.  If a moderator wishes to remove it, that's fine by me.
        
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      <![CDATA[Matt Davis's Gay Moment, on video:<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oecTa3hF9KY" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oecTa3hF9KY</a><br>
        
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      <![CDATA[Yeah the one part of the story that seemed odd was that they "woke up bleeding and with swollen faces". The likelihood that they were both knocked unconscious-- yet didn't sustain any serious injuries-- is slim.<br>
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I'm guessing it's either sloppy reporting or a less-than-true account of what transpired. I don't doubt that a fight took place and the other side let loose some derogatory comments.<br>
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The Oregonian is now reporting that the attackers "might have been at the same campfire" as the victims.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Suburban Porn King]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Then again, one well placed punch to the temple can shut out the lights for a few moments. No, I'm not a doctor but I do feel for them.
        
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      <![CDATA[It looks more like they simply got into a scrap rather than getting "beaten to the point of unconsciousness". They could be exaggerating a bit but that's understandable if you've just been beaten up. I could be wrong. Either way, picking a fight with someone simply because they're gay is appalling.
        
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      <![CDATA[John T, I'm not sure why "I am withholding judgment on a currently one sided story" is any less reasonable a position than "I automatically support the veracity of people that pull my ideological heart-strings". Could you point out exactly what about my position is inherently homophobic? I'm curious.
        
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      <![CDATA[Cynical Boxxy, is the story of two men getting gay-bashed not a "real" story? Because this story happens every single fucking day. And yes, I do think that you sound like a homophobe apologist.
        
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      <![CDATA[Who needs Bill Frist when we've got so many medical experts right here in the comments section!
        
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      <![CDATA[I see what CAT is saying. These two guys don't have the appearance of people who were beat into unconsiousness. <br>
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If this guy can stay consious during his attack, these two guys with black eyes could too.<br>
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<a href="http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/man_injured_in_downtown_portan.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2&hellip;</a><br>
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As detestable as hate crimes are, I would like to hear the whole story.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Will Radik]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[They're cute. I'd like to beat them up a little, myself.
        
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      <![CDATA[Where did someone say they asked for it?
        
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      <![CDATA[UM, Yeah...<br>
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I'm sure they asked for it.<br>
Paging Bill O'Reilly...
        
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: Anti-Gay Hate Crime in Seaside]]></title>

    
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    <author><![CDATA[MY NAME IS BOXXY]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I hate to be the cynic, but I'm holding my breath for the real story to come out. That's photo isn't the look of two out of two people getting beaten "unconcious", and going to the media with a "we got jumped" story has a pretty bad habit of of unraveling into something else.<br>
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Inb4 homophobe apologist, etc...
        
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          <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=1129046">A CAT, probably</a>]]>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:57:31 -0700</pubDate>
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: Anti-Gay Hate Crime in Seaside]]></title>

    
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      <![CDATA["Normally sleepy tourist town"? I thought Seaside was a tacky playground for drunk fratboy trash, drunk fratboy-wannabes, and the drunk skanks who love them.
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:44:42 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Awful.  I hope these criminals are caught and made an example of.
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:16:13 -0700</pubDate>
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