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Yes, David Stern and Paul Allen definitely have organized the Oklahoma two-step.

And Brandon Roy would be even more popular in Seattle.
Posted by Jim Lee]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 21:11:49 -0700 Portland Mercury
"Founded in 1911, AIA/Portland currently serves over 1000 members in Portland and surrounding areas."

http://www.aiaportland.com/aboutaia.asp?me…

So Timbers Army - founded in 2001 boasts over 2000 active members, over 4000 to date. Game nights see about 3,000 in north end.

AIA Portland - Founded nearly a 100 years before the TA and still is a 1/4 of it's size.

Wanna retract that statement now?

Posted by Finnegan]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 19:41:05 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by zug_zugger]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 15:24:46 -0700 Portland Mercury
Some exemplar of all things great about our country and city will break out their really beyond-cool invention to reorganize the seating at the flip of the switch and MLS and stupid baseball will be able to SHARE the PGE space. Portland, you ravish me.

And then WE can say to Paulson you want your MLS?
Well, you can have your MLS as long as Zidane and Petit come out of retirement and re-enact the world cup they won so that we can have a near-orgasmic frenzy watching.....AND, as long as Mr Paulson ponies up many additional millions to remodel the MC into something a big majority of everyone will LOVE- Mcminamen's Memorial Coliseum.

Toma ya, Mr Paulson.
Posted by gonetorio]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 14:33:15 -0700 Portland Mercury
Architects are in the Timbers Army. There are over 5,000 members in the Timbers Army. Both facts.

What happened is these architects were able to be organized and the anti-stadium folks like you hopped on board. You saved the MC (temporarily) but are losing the stadium battle. Lents=Saltzman is on board.

I was just saying it was inevitable the MC was going down. I'll reiterate my point. Allen has money > you and your lot don't. Allen will win.
Posted by BlackedOut]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 13:53:36 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by orgengine]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 13:49:47 -0700 Portland Mercury
That's EXACTLY what the Timbers Army is. Frankly, architects outnumber the Timbers Army.
Posted by Blabby]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 13:21:51 -0700 Portland Mercury
The architects temporarily saved the MC. The Allen Live project will move forward. One plan will be to keep the MC and the other will involve razing the MC. The one that involves keeping the MC will cost $100-$200 million more than the one that just knocks down the MC. They will choose to knock down the MC.

Architects will unite once again to save the MC. Enraged minority of the public will write their commissioners telling them to save the MC (but they don't want to spend the money on it it needs). Blazers will come out and say that without the Live district their future in Portland is shaky. The majority of Portland will freak the fuck out and the Blazers will knock down the MC (cause we all know Allen wants it gone) anyway because no commissioner will want to pay the political price for running the Blazers out of town. Blazers get their way and the Coliseum is gone.

Why?

If you think for half a second there isn't a loophole in the Blazers deal with the city you're only kidding yourself. Allen is too rich not to have a lawyer get one written into the deal. If you think there isn't another city out there that wouldn't build the Blazers a brand new stadium, a Live district, and not expect a penny from Allen you're kidding yourself. I guarantee you there are people in Seattle who are planning for this contingency right now.

In the end there will be no more MC because Allen's group wants it gone and they have the money. What do the architects have to throw on the table? They certainly don't have the $50 million to remodel the MC. Allen's group does...except by remodel they mean knock it down and put a dance club there.
Posted by BlackedOut]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 12:39:13 -0700 Portland Mercury
If Libby wanted to actually do something he would say the hell with another committee and commit to season tickets and going to events there. Walk the talk kiddo.

I think Brian Libby is going to be in for an ugly and unpleasant experience once he comes up against "The Vulcans". By the time they are done with the "remodel" he is gonna wish they just tore the place down.

And how much public money are the Blazers going to ask for for this "entertainment cube" versus the privately backed bonds Paulson was pursuing? Will the Mercury lead a campaign against money for the Blazers?
And, it must be pointed out, the City just walked away from $12.5 million in straight cash from Paulson for a stadium there. He aint spending that in Lents.

My only opinion on Lents is that anyone who tries to claim it is some jewel needs a swift smack in the head. I just played on the third soccer field that is slated to become a part of the stadium complex and both teams wrote a joint letter to our league commissioner saying we would never play on that field again due to it's very dangerous conditions both on the field and the fact we lost two soccer balls to the undercarriages of TriMet buses. The whole park is a disgrace really and needs an complete overhaul - whether baseball stadium is part of it who knows.
Posted by Finnegan]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 12:08:03 -0700 Portland Mercury
You're absolutely right that getting the Coliseum saved from outright demolition was only the first in a multi-battle war. Now Portland needs to make sure the Coliseum is saved from being too bastardized by a renovation plan. If the Blazers and Cordish wind up ruining the Coliseum with live entertainment stuff, this struggle will have been for nothing.

To Mr. Voluptuous, who called me an "arrogant prick" for saying the community was on our side in the Coliseum preservation effort: What should I make of the hundreds of emails from people all over the community and region encouraging me to fight on with the Coliseum? You sound like a cranky baby who didn't get his way and just starts throwing out insults. Waaaa!
Posted by Brian Libby]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 12:03:14 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by Demondog]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 11:55:26 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by Jim Lee]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 11:54:04 -0700 Portland Mercury Lents was always a better location

Do you actually believe that, or are you just playing the troll? Lents is an abysmal location for anything except meth hookers.
Posted by mr. voluptuous]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 11:28:06 -0700 Portland Mercury
Thing is, Brian Libby has been duped. The interior argument isn't about saving the Coliseum, it's something making money for the CITY vs something making money for the Blazers. The Blazers, at this point, appear to have won. They already went to the "we're not making enough money because we can't use the whole Quarter" argument on March 11. (Repeat after me- paper losses based on accelerated depreciation of player contracts) They'll now use a subtle, crafty method to partially accomodate and mostly brush aside the architects. The O article cites $100 million for the project OUTSIDE MC. Bet you it doubles.
Posted by Pounder]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 11:25:46 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by wade]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 11:21:23 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by Daaaaave]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 11:07:51 -0700 Portland Mercury
I was sitting in city hall yesterday and after an hour of BLATHER on the part of the commissioners I started to feel quite nauseated. Each one of these commissioners makes 110K, that's .55 million a year to listen to the five of them BLATHER?

They were BLATHERING about all the reasons they ALL supported a website to promote volunteerism. Fuck.
Go promote volunteerism! Robert's rules never said you had to digress about your childhood in England!
Fucking make a motion, ask for a second, and VOTE, if it's about something so completely non-controversial. Then get on with something SUBSTANTIAL, like what to do with the Coliseum. Publish on your blog, later, in your own time, all the flowery reasons you voted to support voluntarism.
Ack.

Posted by gonetorio]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 09:02:26 -0700 Portland Mercury If the community weren't on our side then our arguments would have fallen on deaf ears.

The community is NOT on your side, elitist prick. You're just the squeaky wheel.
Posted by mr. voluptuous]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 08:46:42 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by jake]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 02:35:44 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by Matthew D]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 00:39:45 -0700 Portland Mercury
Cue the anti-Paulson folks to cry about how he's trying to rip them off because he's the son of someone famous. ahem...

P.S. Brian: I'm willing to talk to you to understand your views and I want to make a side bet. Balls in your court. What is your vision for the Rose Quarter?
Posted by BlackedOut]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 00:39:36 -0700 Portland Mercury
Cue the anti-Paulson folks to cry about how he's trying to rip them off because he's the son of someone famous. ahem...

P.S. Brian: I'm willing to talk to you to understand your views and I want to make a side bet. Balls in your court. What is your vision for the Rose Quarter?
Posted by BlackedOut]]> Thu, 07 May 2009 00:39:35 -0700 Portland Mercury Posted by you've been poisoned.]]> Wed, 06 May 2009 23:17:29 -0700 Portland Mercury