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      <![CDATA[True that. And we are all part of the incestuous pool of queer journalists, too. The difference is that we admit our associations. <br>
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      <![CDATA[Hey, qPDX loves everyone (well almost), and while we may have a typo here and there we are all about cross promotion and no drama: <a href="http://qpdx.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://qpdx.com</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[Hey, qPDX loves everyone (well almost), and while we may have a typo here and there we are all about cross promotion and no drama: <a href="http://qpdx.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://qpdx.com</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[You know, with a name like West Duncan, I can't really see being "incensed" when someone thinks you're a dude. Sure, facts should be checked, but this is an understandable mistake. Sounds like a tranny with a chip on hir [sic] shoulder to me.<br>
        
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      <![CDATA[Graham: I'm not going to sue for discrimination, though I appreciate the sentiment. Not only would that prolong this fiasco, but I don't really feel that is was discrimination per se. I would have accepted it as a completely legitimate reason not to hire me for being straight, because if the goal of publications like Just Out is to represent minority voices and communities, then you don't do that by hiring straight white guys like myself. Mostly, it was just incredibly tacky, because I believe there is credibility to be gained by representing allies as well. However I share blame in the affair for taking it with a slightly forced smile, rather than saying something. But after hundreds of denied applications over the course of a year and running out of stuff to sell to make rent, I was just happy to be working, regardless of the circumstances.<br>
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For me, the larger issue is the hypocrisy of Davis making a principled stand against Mayor Adams for lying to protect his reputation, but having no problem asking me to lie to protect hers. Choices like that make it difficult to accept any news source as legitimate. Which is sad, because I feel that papers like Just Out serve an important place in the community, not only as an information source, but as a safe space for people to be themselves free of the discrimination they often face in the world at large, and losing them or having them be discredited is a disservice to us all.<br>
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-Josh Gross
        
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      <![CDATA[I hope they both go out of business. Magazines specifically for homos are stupid and retrograde.
        
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      <![CDATA[Having published gay newspaper for many years in Wisconsin and many gay websites, I have to echo the writers here. How can ANYBODY have typos on their cover of their first edition? No self respecting gay man would have designed or accepted that cover. There is no point launching a print publication in this market or economy. I doubt Portland's gay community is big enough to support two print publications. This all sounds like a personal spat.
        
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      <![CDATA[Why anyone would launch a weekly print magazine now is baffling to me. I haven't bothered to read Just Out for several years now and id looks like its doppelganger. Talk about throwing $$$ down the drain.
        
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      <![CDATA[Per the update: Maybe I should start a gay magazine/newspaper/publication. Because it seems that it requires just about zero intelligence or professionalism to run one. Who the fuck fires someone over a pronoun mistake?<br>
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I hope that Gross sues Davis for sexual discrimination. That would make for epic LULZ and make win fall from the sky.<br>
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      <![CDATA[OK. Time to ask the cover designer if he/she/it would make out with a straight person at the bar, as penance.
        
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      <![CDATA[picked up of mag today, biiiig mistake!!!  Can nobody in the gay community get their shit together and publish a really high quality magazine in Portland?
        
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      <![CDATA[How did they determine that dog is gay?
        
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      <![CDATA[It's not as ugly as Just Out these days - their art director must have been one of the ones who jumped ship. An ugly publication for gay people - the very concept just boggles the mind.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[I <3 parentheses]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[The real question is, can they afford to pay their staff?  (And/Or: Did the staff enter into this without the expectation that they'd get paid in the first place?)
        
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      <![CDATA[God, that is an ugly magazine. A lesbian must've designed it because a gay man would NEVER let that happen.<br>
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Okay, I have no idea..I just wanted to say something inflammatory.<br>
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      <![CDATA[Hey Merc, we need to talk.<br>
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You've been abusing the whole "Full Disclosure..." thing. I'm not trying to suggest anything about Stephen's motives here, I know the Portland media world is as incestuous as it gets, but it just feels to me like if you're writing a story about a tiff between the editorial staffs of two publications, one of which you were once a member of, it might be best if you just turn the story over to another writer, if nothing else it would save the story fifteen words.<br>
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Then again, what do I know- did you see the compound sentence I just typed?
        
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      <![CDATA[Graham, sorry for suggesting that you were suggesting a really stupid thing. I glazed by that sentence, and I think you have a good point!<br>
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Will - yeah, I bet a good graphic designer would have also fit a gay cat on the cover.
        
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      <![CDATA[Id should get a better graphic designer, too. That cover looks like ass. As for professionalism, Davis is showing a complete lack of it. Gets funnier every time. hah.
        
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      <![CDATA[bob and ROM, I was actually referring to a quote from the article, "riddled with way too many errors of grammar and spelling"<br>
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Using a wrong pronoun is a typo and wouldn't get caught by the software. That's why publications should have copy-editors.
        
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      <![CDATA[Oh, they spelled "Health" wrongly.<br>
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Bob - I think Pro-Active is an acceptable version of Proactive.
        
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      <![CDATA[Id, as in unconscious psyche?  There's already an I.D. Magazine - wonder if their lawyers will get up in arms over the similar name.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Bob R.]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Maybe Graham is referring to "Pro-Active", from the cover.  Then again, it could be a play on words -- but to what end?
        
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      <![CDATA[Graham, are you suggesting that the word "he" should not pass a spell-check test?<br>
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How does Just Out still have people working for it? From my perspective (reader of Blogtown), they seem to be losing writers left and right, and they suck.
        
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      <![CDATA[How does a magazine put out articles with spelling errors? Word Editors have had spell-check for like 20+ years now.<br>
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Professionalism people, it's not like you're doing rocket surgery.
        
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