http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2010/02/02/new-details-in-police-shooting-of-suicidal-man-gun-near-front-door-but-not-on-man Comments On: New Details in Police Shooting of Suicidal Man: Gun Near Front Door, but not on Man. by Sarah Mirk en-us Copyright 2013 Portland Mercury. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Portland Mercury readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Portland Mercury. webmaster@portlandmercury.com (Portland Mercury Webmaster) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:15:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2… or http://www.streetnewsservice.org/index.php… or other stories - just google waterhouse and frashour together. ] Looks like abuse. Of a 'suspect'.

Please respond with a comment. (No doubt the liberal jury just failed to understand Frashour's defense attorney and some hippie federal judge went along with it. Or didn't he mention this to you?)
Posted by Number Six]]> Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:08:31 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by rh]]> Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:03:45 -0800 Portland Mercury

Posted by Anti-Morons]]> Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:41:18 -0800 Portland Mercury
gloworm brain missing: 1
Posted by Matthew D]]> Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:02:41 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by Murdered_in_PDX]]> Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:44:32 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by gloworm]]> Wed, 03 Feb 2010 11:01:17 -0800 Portland Mercury
Precisely what I said in the original article on this incident. The real question is why it took the SERT 23 minutes to deploy when this standoff had been in progress for 1.5 hours.

I won't go into use of lethal force in this case. In my opinion, that's a subject that an independent auditor/reviewer should take on.
Posted by Jackattak]]> Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:23:16 -0800 Portland Mercury
And yes, there are plenty of ways to influence the police department. For instance, you can lobby the police commissioner to discipline problem officers. Ohh, wait, no, that just leads to an armed mob with bullet proof vests descending on city hall.
Posted by Matthew D]]> Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:32:11 -0800 Portland Mercury
you've got a "lethal fire officer" ready to take his ass out.

why on earth isn't your "Special Emergency Reaction Team" ALREADY THERE?!?!?!?!
were they already busy safely approaching other non-armed dead black men around the city?????

of course this guy died. the cops didn't care if he lived. they killed him with one bullet. for 1.5 hours they assumed he was armed and were ready to shoot him if they deemed it "necessary". but they never bothered to request SERT until they had ended his life.
they probably just told SERT to catch the next available bus out there. "no rush guys."

Posted by Rick Warren]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:32:01 -0800 Portland Mercury
We don't need to work within the system. We need an independent Police review board.

If this guy was acting aggressively towards innocent people, police, etc and there was the real chance he had a gun then generally I would say the Police would be justified in shooting someone in the name of protecting everyone else including themselves. That's in generality though. There are other things that may have happened.

The problem lies in so many of these cases when you interview witnesses the story the Police paint is very different than the story witnesses paint.

So what if witnesses come out and say they told the cops he didn't have a gun, the Police were overly aggressive, and after they shot the suspect they had a little pow wow and got their stories straight?

What is this a problem then with taking the Police story as truth? Because the Portland Police have a history of the witnesses having a completely different story than the Police at the scene do and there isn't an independent review board to check up on what actually happened. If you don't know what I'm talking about read some of Matt's reporting on the James Chasse where what witnesses said doesn't correlate with the Police version of events. That's why people don't take the Police version of events as fact.
Posted by BlackedOut]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:27:46 -0800 Portland Mercury
Posted by gloworm]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:33:26 -0800 Portland Mercury
They have greater likelihood of abusing their power in a way that results in their employers, i.e. Us, being killed, so they need to be okay with that. They often aren't, but that doesn't mean they're right; it just means that they're crybabies. I wish like hell someone my vote elected would do something.
Posted by rich bachelor]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:08:08 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by iwouldprefernotto]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:29:36 -0800 Portland Mercury
If he has one in his size, why don't he keep it in the trunk of his car, and you know, put it on during a hour and a half long standoff?
Posted by Matthew D]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:10:22 -0800 Portland Mercury http://photostore.chrisleck.com/Newswire/R…
Posted by Number Six]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:54:39 -0800 Portland Mercury http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/2008/0…
Posted by Number Six]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:52:01 -0800 Portland Mercury
Then there is the story of the officer who suggested that some of the officers in the James Chase murder were stressed, (which I think it pretty obvious: anyone who was human would probably feel bad about killing someone, no matter how evil the person they killed was.) He has since been demoted to working in the evidence locker, where his 'change from within' is limited to tagging items that may or may not have been planted on the suspects.

Since I almost never need a police officer, complaining about police officers from the outside is pretty safe: When I need one, I'll have to take my chances that I might get Chris Humpreys and he might remember my face and comments on this website, but my odds will be much better if he doesn't work for the police in the first place.
Posted by Matthew D]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:48:18 -0800 Portland Mercury
We're already "within the system" by our very nature. We pay police salaries. With our tax dollars. They work for us. We are their bosses.

Anytime we talk about the police - good or bad - it is by definition "real dialogue."
Posted by Matt]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:00:03 -0800 Portland Mercury investigated for unlawful harming of his own children. if true, then raises the ? as to why Rosie kept him on the PPB force and who is going to pay for this dude's trigger-hair reactionary temper this time? I say Rosie ought to have her damned ass sued as well as that clown at PPA (the rotund version of Robert King) and make all of 'em into Court mandated poor WHITE TRASH (at least the court can make 'em "poor" as they do the rest well by themselves). Mount up folks...let's go get 'em!!!
Posted by Bad Robot]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:35:06 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by iwouldprefernotto]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:33:17 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by gloworm]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:28:51 -0800 Portland Mercury zinelibrary.info

link:
http://zinelibrary.info/nazis-and-police-p…

"NAZIS and POLICE in Portland, Oregon" is a short article about the overlapping racism of the Portland police department and nazi organizations. Portland has a long history of racist cops and a long history of nazi scumbags.

Recently, Portland police's Mark Kruger was promoted to the rank of captain, in spite of his publicly known interest in nazism and his repeated violent offenses against non-violent protesters.

This zine takes a look at the racist climate in Portland of Kruger's formative teenage years, the role that the police department had in engaging in and encouraging racist attacks against minority groups, and organized nazism. Then it looks at Portland now, the violence perpetrated against minorities by the police department, and the continuing presence of nazi groups.

This is the third edition published on zinelibrary, with more content, some corrections, and better graphics.

link: http://zinelibrary.info/nazis-and-police-p…
Posted by 123fourfivesix]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:47:55 -0800 Portland Mercury zinelibrary.info

link:
http://zinelibrary.info/nazis-and-police-p…

"NAZIS and POLICE in Portland, Oregon" is a short article about the overlapping racism of the Portland police department and nazi organizations. Portland has a long history of racist cops and a long history of nazi scumbags.

Recently, Portland police's Mark Kruger was promoted to the rank of captain, in spite of his publicly known interest in nazism and his repeated violent offenses against non-violent protesters.

This zine takes a look at the racist climate in Portland of Kruger's formative teenage years, the role that the police department had in engaging in and encouraging racist attacks against minority groups, and organized nazism. Then it looks at Portland now, the violence perpetrated against minorities by the police department, and the continuing presence of nazi groups.

This is the third edition published on zinelibrary, with more content, some corrections, and better graphics.

link: http://zinelibrary.info/nazis-and-police-p…
Posted by nomopopo]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:37:01 -0800 Portland Mercury http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2…

They paraphrase some witnesses that may contradict some of the police lawyer's press release:

"Campbell's family and witnesses said Campbell was not carrying a gun; police would not confirm that. Police did seize a .22-caliber Beretta pistol from a hallway closet of his girlfriend's apartment, with four bullets. Witnesses say Campbell was trying to comply with commands, having stepped outside with his hands locked behind his head. He may have been mouthing off, but was not a threat, they say. "
Posted by Number Six]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:21:11 -0800 Portland Mercury
Also: I challenge anyone to put your hands on the back of your head, then take a few beanbag shotgun rounds to the lower back and NOT drop at least one of your hands to your side, waist or back. But alas, the grand jury will be told "this is what happened" and not charge the homicidal cop with any crime.


Posted by Number Six]]> Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:00:51 -0800 Portland Mercury