http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2013/01/28/nightclub-fires-dont-kill-people-people-kill-people Comments On: Nightclub Fires Don't Kill People, People Kill People by Goldy en-us Copyright 2013 Portland Mercury. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Portland Mercury readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Portland Mercury. webmaster@portlandmercury.com (Portland Mercury Webmaster) Tue, 21 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Tue, 21 May 2013 00:00:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss http://fabiusmaximus.com/2013/01/24/guns-w…

"An oddity of the New America is how we stumble dealing with problems solved not just by our peers in other developed nations, but in our past. Gun control is but one example. Other nations, our peers in the developed world, have accomplished what we’re told is impossible for Americans: reducing gun ownership. In our past we were able to regulate guns without cries that we shredded the Constitution. In brief, we see ignorance and amnesia — what conservative leaders consider ideal qualities for citizens."
Posted by Feles mala]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:05:32 -0800 Portland Mercury
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_war

I'm thinking you just don't know what a civil war is... for there to be a civil war, you have to have an insurrection, at least according to the definition. Mexico’s war is really created by America for a whole bunch of reasons I won’t get into, but we fund both sides of it. Mexico is fighting against cartels and gangsters, not against political actors. You could juxtaposed the cartels to an actual insurrectionary force in Mexico, the Zapatistas, who fit the definition as an insurgent group in an active civil war with the Mexican government.

@Drunk, if it makes it easier, we can just compare our dicks and call it good. I’m about 3 and a half on a good day, less usually.
Posted by fidelity_axiom]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:26:33 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by Spindles]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:21:47 -0800 Portland Mercury
It's like when a python starts eating its own tail.
Posted by Drunk & Write]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:09:29 -0800 Portland Mercury The "gun nuts" are entirely correct when they say that it's people who do the killing, etc. And when the rebuttal is that no one racks up that kind of body count with a machete, that person is also completely right.

There y'go, Goldy. Your analogy was kind of a stretch.
Posted by rich bachelor]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:59:27 -0800 Portland Mercury
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count…

@Human – Yeah, we are uniquely prone to a type of psychopathy in this country. School violence in other countries is usually political terrorism. Again, I think America’s problem is a result of Big Pharma and SSRI drugs. Let’s not forget, too, that our government is the biggest killer in this country, and that’s done for no good reason as well. I’d wager my paycheck that more children have died from drone strikes since Sandy Hook than children who have died during Sandy Hook. We are a particularly sick country to care about our own children, but not the children of other nations.
Posted by fidelity_axiom]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:29:25 -0800 Portland Mercury
Fucking sick.
Posted by human in training]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:32:14 -0800 Portland Mercury
"So, what's the story with Jamaica, Guatemala, Brazil, and Panama?"

You're talking about apples and oranges, man. Apples and fucking broccoli. I think what Goldy was pointing to in the statement of his that you took issue with are things like school shootings, which clearly are more prevalent here than they are in other countries, even when we take into account things like population.

I only performed the most cursory of searches, but some of the numbers i found are astounding, and shameful: One source states that 31 school shootings have occurred in this country since Columbine (in '99), while only a combined 14 have occurred in that same time WORLDWIDE.

Perusing another couple of pages/sources, again not including and since Columbine, i counted 50 school shootings in the U.S. compared to a combined 27 WORLDWIDE.

We are a sick people.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/20843/31…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooti…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_schoo…
Posted by human in training]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:25:54 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by Drunk & Write]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:16:50 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by Drunk & Write]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:16:03 -0800 Portland Mercury
So, what's the story with Jamaica, Guatemala, Brazil, and Panama?
Posted by fidelity_axiom]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:26:27 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by Drunk & Write]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:13:39 -0800 Portland Mercury
That will work this time, for sure!

We can just promote it as: “ATTENTION CRIMINALS: a new law has been passed saying you must obey the law when it comes to guns. Seriously.”

@Goldy - “Our nation is suffering an epidemic of gun violence totally disproportionate to that being suffered anywhere in the world that isn't in the midst of a bloody civil war.”

This statement is just factually inaccurate, just look at Mexico.
Posted by fidelity_axiom]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:09:45 -0800 Portland Mercury
I think it's quite a fitting analogy -- in general, we need a little oversight, whether in regard to capacity limits/safety precautions in places where people congregate, to who can and cannot own/purchase a firearm, to who and how one operates a motor vehicle on public roads.

And like the article states, it's (insane, sideways, incompetent, disturbed) PEOPLE control, not gun control.
Posted by human in training]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:22:22 -0800 Portland Mercury Posted by Spindles]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:45:30 -0800 Portland Mercury