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      <![CDATA["...Guffman, you are not the only one still scared by this. The police actions in this case only serve to make citizens more afraid - and more likely to react exactly the way James Chasse did to an attempted police stop": Thanks for that.  Sometimes I think I'm the only one.<br>
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Community policing, conceptually, is a great answer to this issue.  Even so, we have to have some lines drawn for the human pit bulls who enforce our laws.  Like, pissing in the street is NOT justifiable cause for the kind of apprehension used on James Chasse.  Might we all agree on that one point?
        
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      <![CDATA[What gets me every time I think about this case is that if we had real community policing, this would not have happened.  By all accounts from those who knew Chasse, he moved within this 10-15 block area, and seems to have been recognized by many who lived and worked in the same vicinity.  The police were the strangers in that neighborhood.  If the police walked a beat in that area, they would have already known him (and his mental illness) and he may have had some level of trust of them.  <br>
And, Guffman, you are not the only one still scared by this.  The police actions in this case only serve to make citizens more afraid - and more likely to react exactly the way James Chasse did to an attempted police stop.<br>
        
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      <![CDATA["...the effect on the officers involved has been devastating": We hear this a lot, but we never get an explanation. HOW was it "devastating"?  I'd really like to know.  Does their guilt jerk them awake every night at 1 a.m. in a cold sweat?<br>
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"They didn't expect Chasse to suffer serious injury. They were merely hoping he would comply with their commands": Implicit in this is a warning: If you don't comply with cop commands, they can and will kill you.  Even if all you did was piss in the street.<br>
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"These are men of honor and integrity who were trying to do their jobs, and they feel terrible about the outcome": Well.  I'm sure they feel terrible about the outcome now, when the damn thing STILL hasn't been swept under the rug.  "Honor and integrity"?  That's hard for me to credit, given that Chasse was "wanted" for nothing more than PISSING IN THE STREET, which to the cops apparently warranted a foot chase and a brute-force takedown, on pavement, of a much smaller man.<br>
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The Chasse case scared me.  I'm not in as bad a mental state as Chasse was, but occasionally I can see that place from where I stand.  And sometimes it occurs to me that I'm just one bad day away from a disastrous Downtown encounter with the PPB.  Because, if you act weird, one of them might "tackle" you from behind and break about forty of your ribs....
        
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      <![CDATA[Nice...kill a 71 year old man and a 45 year old woman as an officer, you get a medal and a promotion.  <br>
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Brag about how you kicked ass to your buddies then lying to investigators.  Humphreys is probably wondering where his medal is...
        
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      <![CDATA[Personally I put a lot more stock in the truth of what the officer said before he realized his actions had resulted in someone else's death.  The difference isn't between what he said to other cops and what he said later, it is the difference between what he said when he thought it was no big deal and when he realized he could be on trial for murder.
        
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      <![CDATA[IMPUNITY<br>
Pronunciation:    \im-&#712;pyü-n&#601;-t&#275;\ <br>
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Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French impunité, from Latin impunitat-, impunitas, from impune without punishment, from in- + poena punishment<br>
Date: 1532<br>
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Definition: exemption or freedom from punishment, harm, or loss  <br>
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Shit happens.  Impunity is systemic.  If the cops had said - we made a mistake, we're sorry, we'll fix it - nobody would disagree.  We'd take it in stride - the costs of living in the big city.  Wrong place at the wrong time.  The family would be sad, but compensated knowing the cops understood they had made a mistake.  The terrifying and continuing weirdness of this case is they don't think they made a mistake.  <br>
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This discordant and arrogant statement from the union flack shows the impunity continues.<br>
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And didn't Westerman already kill two people? <br>
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So.  Who's next?
        
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          Posted by <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=841164">cicolini</a>]]>
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