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      <title>Comments On: City Offers To Re-Train Cops On Videoing Arrests
    
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      <![CDATA[The policy is still in violation of federal statutes because no permission is needed to film or record on a public street, period. Stating that permission is necessary for a "private" conversation on a public street violates the tenants of case law that have ruled that there is NO EXPECTATION of privacy in a public place. There are many video cameras around downtown such as those on every corner of the new Elliot Tower or attached to ATM machines that RECORD AUDIO without informing those being taped -- thereby not granting consent. I don't see the city prosecutor going after those violations.
        
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      <![CDATA[For clarification, DemonJuice:<br>
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"We urged the city to include a bright line rule that stops and arrests are public events that can be recorded," says Haile. "Stops and arrests are matters of public concern so the act of stopping or arresting someone never carries with it an expectation of privacy.  Certainly it is possible that specific conversations during the course of an arrest could become private if the parties displayed a clear expectation of privacy.  For example, police huddles are necessary for good police work.  If police officers huddle away from other people they would be displaying an expectation of privacy. Therefore, their communications would no longer be public, and could not be recorded without their consent.  But police never start out having an expectation of privacy that would prevent them from being recorded when they stop or arrest someone."<br>
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"On private property, people who have a reasonable expectation of privacy on the property could not be recorded during a stop or arrest without their consent," Haile continues. " But the police still don't have any reasonable expectation of privacy on someone else's property, so they can be recorded by someone who is there with permission."
        
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          Posted by <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=825217">Matt Davis</a>]]>
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    <author><![CDATA[Joe Joe]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I agree, that is Ed Norton in undercover for a new film he's going to be in.
        
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          Posted by <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=828257">Joe Joe</a>]]>
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      <![CDATA[Is "public event" defined somewhere?
        
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          Posted by <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Profile?oid=828442">DemonJuice</a>]]>
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      <![CDATA[Now that this is out of the way we can focus on the initial reason why Joe was videotaping that day of what appeared to be Officer Reister racially profile and use excessive force on a Hispanic man.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[pdx97217]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Kudos to Dave and Ben for knocking this out, and to Joe Anybody for being peaceful and patient and waiting for justice. <br>
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This agreement benefits us all.
        
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      <![CDATA[That beard's not fooling me: that's Ed Norton!
        
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    <author><![CDATA[D]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[It must be incredibly frustrating to so meticulously nitpick ways to find out how the bloodthirtsy fascist police are so unjustly oppressing us.<br>
        
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